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Maliclavelli
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« on: July 23, 2012, 04:36:13 PM »

The last reassessment of mtDNA done by Behar et al. (Behar 2012b) gives to hg. K1a2 an age of 13602.2 +/-3164.5 years.

The Ian Logan spreadsheet presents these haplotype:

1. AY495254(European) Coble          K1a2    07-JAN-2008    A73G             A263G 309.1C 315.1C C497T                             A750G        T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G                      A3480G A3816G        A4769G C7028T                                    A8860G G9055A        T9698C A10398G A10550G         T11025C T11299C A11467G G11719A         A12308G G12372A T12477C C14167T         C14766T T14798C         A15326G T16093C         T16224C         T16311C A16399G T16519C
 2. EF660927(Italy) Gasparre          K1a2    04-JUL-2007    A73G             A263G        315.1C C497T                             A750G        T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G                      A3480G               A4769G C7028T                             A8725G A8860G G9055A        T9698C A10398G A10550G         T11025C T11299C A11467G G11719A         A12308G G12372A         C14167T         C14766T T14798C         A15326G                 T16224C         T16311C A16399G T16519C
 3. EU760854 FTDNA EU760854, -, English                   K1a2    08-JUN-2008    A73G             A263G        315.1C C497T                             A750G        T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G        C3318T        A3480G               A4769G C7028T        T8005C                      A8860G G9055A        T9698C A10398G A10550G A10658G T11025C T11299C A11467G G11719A         A12308G G12372A         C14167T         C14766T T14798C         A15326G                 T16224C         T16311C A16399G T16519C
 4. GQ281051 FTDNA                    K1a2    24-JUN-2009    A73G       T152C A263G        315.1C C497T 523.1C 523.2A 523.3C 523.4A A750G        T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G                      A3480G               A4769G C7028T        T8005C                      A8860G G9055A        T9698C A10398G A10550G         T11025C T11299C A11467G G11719A         A12308G G12372A         C14167T         C14766T T14798C         A15326G T16093C C16201T T16224C C16278T T16311C         T16519C
 5. HM041971 FTDNA                    K1a2    06-APR-2010    A73G             A263G        315.1C C497T 523.1C 523.2A               A750G A1116G T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G C2834T        C3471A A3480G        A4316G A4769G C7028T C7694T T8005C T8185C T8802C        A8860G G9055A C9293T T9698C A10398G A10550G         T11025C T11299C A11467G G11719A         A12308G G12372A         C14167T         C14766T T14798C         A15326G T16093C         T16224C         T16311C         T16519C
6. HM065508 FTDNA   /note="ethnicity:Italian; origin_locality:USA"
                 K1a2    21-APR-2010    A73G             A263G        315.1C C497T                             A750G        T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G                      A3480G               A4769G C7028T                             A8725G A8860G G9055A        T9698C A10398G A10550G         T11025C T11299C A11467G G11719A         A12308G G12372A         C14167T         C14766T T14798C         A15326G                 T16224C         T16311C A16399G T16519C
 7. JN647926(Armenian) FTDNA          K1a2    12-SEP-2011    A73G T146C       A263G 309.1C 315.1C C497T                             A750G        T1189C A1438G A1811G A2706G                      A3480G               A4769G C7028T                                    A8860G G9055A        T9698C A10398G A10550G         T11025C T11299C A11467G G11719A G11914A A12308G G12372A         C14167T T14530C C14766T T14798C G15024A A15326G                 T16224C         T16311C         T16519C

I have indicated the ethnicity I was able to find ; out of 7, 2 are Italians, 1 English, 1 Armenian, 3 unknown.
These are the samples of Behar 2012b:
Sample Id: JQ703309
Verified
Unresolved Options:
Partial Descendants:
Private Mutations: G3918A; A5301G; A5474G; G8557A; A11812G; G14410A;
Topologically Missing:
Country:
Geography:
Ancestry:
Reference: Behar 2012b
Contact:
Sample Id: AY495254
Verified
Unresolved Options:
Partial Descendants:
Private Mutations: A3816G; T12477C; T16093C; A16399G;
Topologically Missing:
Country:
Geography:
Ancestry:
Reference: Coble 2004
Contact:
Sample Id: HM065508
Verified
Unresolved Options:
Partial Descendants:
Private Mutations: A8725G; A16399G;
Topologically Missing:
Country:
Geography:
Ancestry:
Reference: FamilyTreeDNA
Contact:
Sample Id: JN647926
Verified
Unresolved Options:
Partial Descendants:
Private Mutations: T14530C; G15024A;
Topologically Missing: C146T(L1'2'3'4'5'6); A11914G(L1'2'3'4'5'6);
Country:
Geography:
Ancestry:
Reference: FamilyTreeDNA
Contact:

Italian HM065508 has the mutation A16399G, present also in the unidentified samples of the Ian Logan Spreadsheet

On Mitosearch there are these haplotypes (1 I have just put from SMGF):

YKBS6 224C, 311C, 399G, 519C Not Tested First Name: Margherita Last Name: Pietro Year Born: Year Died: Country of Origin: Abbruza [Abruzzo] Province, Italy

CT5R8 129A, 224C, 311C, 399G, 519C 073G, 146C, 195C, 263G, 309.1C, 315.1C . First Name: Clara Last Name: Parson Year Born: 1867 Year Died: Country of Origin: Sweden

UNNGM 168T, 224C, 311C, 399G, 519C 073G, 263G, 315.1C, 497T First Name: Caden Last Name: Tarica /Benveniste Year Born: About 1820 Year Died: About 1890 Country of Origin: Rhodes Island Aegean Sea, Turkey

WDTNK 224C, 311C, 399G, 519C 073G, 263G, 315.1C, 497T First Name: Carolina Last Name: Mazzoni Year Born: 1880 Year Died: Country of Origin: Senerchia, Avellino, Italy

WRMMK 224C, 311C, 399G, 519C No Mutations First Name: Jane Last Name: Bennett (nee Martin?) Year Born: About 1790 Year Died: About 1840 Country of Origin: West Halling, Kent, United Kingdom

XFHSA 224C, 311C, 399G, 519C 073G, 263G, 315.1C, 497T Contact person: Paul Renda  [Italian surname]

XFHSA, WDTNK are Italians. WRMMK, CT5R8, YKBS6 either don’t belong to this haplogroup or aren’t decidable.
UNNGM is probably K1a2 with a new mutation (C16168T) and belong to a Jewish family of Rhodes Island with the surname Benveniste arose certainly in Italy.

Which my conclusion?
K1a2 comes from the Italian Refugium.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2012, 04:38:55 PM by Maliclavelli » Logged

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YDNA: R-S12460


MtDNA: K1a1b1e

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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2012, 04:01:32 AM »

Also K1a2 GQ281051 with the many and abundant mutations in HVRI (T16093C C16021T T16224C C16278T T16311C T16519C) is from the Isles because on SMGF there 5 people from the US of probably British descent.
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