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« on: May 26, 2012, 10:59:30 AM »

Apparently the Royal Stewarts are positive for all three, L744, L745, and L746. I believed they were all private, but I found a Webb (kit 75703) who is L744+ and L746+, but L745-. His closest matches are all Stewarts/Stuarts, but they are 6 and 7 away at 67 markers and 10 or more away at 111 markers.

There is also a Mitchell (kit 52758) who is positive for all three SNPs. He has a Stuart only 3 away at 111 markers, though.

So, apparently L745 is downstream of both of the other two markers, but how do they line up relative to each other?

This is of some personal interest to me, since one of my great-grandmothers was a Stewart, and, apparently as a consequence, at least three of these Stewarts show up among my Family Finder matches.

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2012, 11:10:44 AM »

Apparently the Royal Stewarts are positive for all three, L744, L745, and L746. I believed they were all private, but I found a Webb (kit 75703) who is L744+ and L746+, but L745-. His closest matches are all Stewarts/Stuarts, but they are 6 and 7 away at 67 markers and 10 or more away at 111 markers.

There is also a Mitchell (kit 52758) who is positive for all three SNPs. He has a Stuart only 3 away at 111 markers, though.

So, apparently L745 is downstream of both of the other two markers, but how do they line up relative to each other?

This is of some personal interest to me, since one of my great-grandmothers was a Stewart, and, apparently as a consequence, at least three of these Stewarts show up among my Family Finder matches.




I see from Thomas Krahn's Draft P312 Tree that apparently L744 and L746 are equivalent.

That answers that question, if that is correct.

Interesting . . .
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2012, 11:27:11 AM »

Apparently the Royal Stewarts are positive for all three, L744, L745, and L746. I believed they were all private, but I found a Webb (kit 75703) who is L744+ and L746+, but L745-. His closest matches are all Stewarts/Stuarts, but they are 6 and 7 away at 67 markers and 10 or more away at 111 markers.

There is also a Mitchell (kit 52758) who is positive for all three SNPs. He has a Stuart only 3 away at 111 markers, though.

So, apparently L745 is downstream of both of the other two markers, but how do they line up relative to each other?

This is of some personal interest to me, since one of my great-grandmothers was a Stewart, and, apparently as a consequence, at least three of these Stewarts show up among my Family Finder matches.



Are these folks in the R1b Group Type 2 category at the Stewart DNA Project? This group is also labeled as descendants of the High Stewards of Scotland. It looks like the largest group of related Stewarts in the project too.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2012, 11:55:42 AM »

Apparently the Royal Stewarts are positive for all three, L744, L745, and L746. I believed they were all private, but I found a Webb (kit 75703) who is L744+ and L746+, but L745-. His closest matches are all Stewarts/Stuarts, but they are 6 and 7 away at 67 markers and 10 or more away at 111 markers.

There is also a Mitchell (kit 52758) who is positive for all three SNPs. He has a Stuart only 3 away at 111 markers, though.

So, apparently L745 is downstream of both of the other two markers, but how do they line up relative to each other?

This is of some personal interest to me, since one of my great-grandmothers was a Stewart, and, apparently as a consequence, at least three of these Stewarts show up among my Family Finder matches.



Are these folks in the R1b Group Type 2 category at the Stewart DNA Project? This group is also labeled as descendants of the High Stewards of Scotland. It looks like the largest group of related Stewarts in the project too.

Some of them are there, and some of them are in the other "Ancient Stewarts" categories that follow.

I created an R-L744/L746 (L745-) category and an R-L745 category at the R-L21 Plus Project. I had not done that until today because I thought those SNPs were private. R-L745 might still be, but Webb has a different surname (obviously), is L745-, and is far enough off the Stewarts to have only a very distant relationship to them.



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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2012, 12:41:20 PM »

L744 is in the process of getting on ISOGG tree at the moment. I'm not fully up to date but I think they are fairly close to confirming their position with regards to all current SNP's on ISOGG tree (under L21). I sponsored a L744+/L745+/L746+ to test DF41. We already know that DF41+ is negative for all three (myself)
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