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« on: January 07, 2012, 08:54:52 PM »

All the new SNPs are making it very hard to follow.  Its like paper genealogy.  A point comes when I can no longer function without a tree or flow chart.  Ideally I would like to see a tree which notes both SNPs and common cluster names. 
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 09:02:46 AM »

There's the ISOGG R Tree, but you probably already knew about it.

I agree with what you posted. The new SNPs are coming on at a fast and furious pace. It makes it hard to keep up and to tell the private SNPs from the more useful, more broadly distributed SNPs.

Organizing project pages by terminal SNP has become a real chore.
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 01:20:05 PM »

Is this due to the relatively new 111-marker tests?
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 01:51:09 PM »

Is this due to the relatively new 111-marker tests?

No, those are STR markers or "Short Tandem Repeats".

SNPs (Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms) are changes at a single marker rather than repeating patterns on multiple markers.

The new SNP discoveries are coming mostly via the WTY projects and the 1000 Genomes Project, as far as I can tell.
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 06:37:25 PM »

I was wondering if I should go the "Walk the Y" route.  Is it still active?

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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2012, 08:16:08 PM »

I was wondering if I should go the "Walk the Y" route.  Is it still active?

As far as I know, it still is.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 01:37:45 PM »

I was wondering if I should go the "Walk the Y" route.  Is it still active?

As far as I know, it still is.
A quick perusal of the Finch2 server shows there are still 8 WTY sequenced kits waiting to be scored, including one that is R-L21. I suppose they are still accepting new applications, but you might want to wait until they are able to do a higher number of locations (probably later this year), or for a sale. Some of the latest tests are coming with more than 400,000 locations tested.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 01:42:02 PM »

A quick perusal of the Finch2 server shows there are still 8 WTY sequenced kits waiting to be scored, including one that is R-L21. I suppose they are still accepting new applications, but you might want to wait until they are able to do a higher number of locations (probably later this year), or for a sale. Some of the latest tests are coming with more than 400,000 locations tested.

The R-L21 waiting on scoring is known to be R-L513 (P66-, L193-)
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2012, 03:09:44 PM »

A quick perusal of the Finch2 server shows there are still 8 WTY sequenced kits waiting to be scored, including one that is R-L21. I suppose they are still accepting new applications, but you might want to wait until they are able to do a higher number of locations (probably later this year), or for a sale. Some of the latest tests are coming with more than 400,000 locations tested.

The R-L21 waiting on scoring is known to be R-L513 (P66-, L193-)
Who's the kit#?

P.S. I've got some great folks in my (11-13 L513+) group. I've been fortunate, indeed.
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012, 03:22:42 PM »

Who's the kit#?

P.S. I've got some great folks in my (11-13 L513+) group. I've been fortunate, indeed.

Kit# 210379    Roberts
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 10:16:36 PM »

Who's the kit#?

P.S. I've got some great folks in my (11-13 L513+) group. I've been fortunate, indeed.

Kit# 210379    Roberts

This WTY kit has come back with two new SNPs L908 and L909...
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 01:10:41 PM »

Kit# 210379    Roberts
This WTY kit has come back with two new SNPs L908 and L909...
Can you see Roberts' status on L577, L193, P66, L705, L706 and L69 ?
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 02:34:23 PM »

Kit# 210379    Roberts
This WTY kit has come back with two new SNPs L908 and L909...
Can you see Roberts' status on L577, L193, P66, L705, L706 and L69 ?

No, not yet. I can't access the traces or allele list yet. Will keep checking, though
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 10:19:11 PM »

Kit# 210379    Roberts
This WTY kit has come back with two new SNPs L908 and L909...
Can you see Roberts' status on L577, L193, P66, L705, L706 and L69 ?

No, not yet. I can't access the traces or allele list yet. Will keep checking, though

Here you go...
L577-
L193-
P66-
L705.2-
L706.2-
L69 no call

Also:
L459+
Z245+
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