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 on: August 16, 2014, 10:34:55 AM 
Started by draperAdmin - Last post by Clarice Vernon Draper, Jr.
•       ​Kit Number: 342445​
•       Me: ​Clarice Vernon Draper, Jr.
•       ​Email: 

I have tested:
FTDNA DF27+ (Haplo: R1b-DF27)
FTDNA Family Finder

AncestryDNA Autosomal

23andMe Autosomal

This is an invite to any/all of my data.


 on: August 15, 2014, 09:40:10 PM 
Started by Jef Treece - Last post by Jef Treece
A number of descendants of Michael Treece, b. 1759, have now done a yDNA test.  One tester matches the "main" group - lineage 1 - of Treece yDNA results.  The others do not match.

The fact that one person does match makes me revise my theory.  I now suspect:

  • Michael Treece b.1759 was a biological descendant of Peter Dries, b.1716.
  • There may have been more than one Michael, and records might be intermixed
  • The NPE I seek could be George Treece/Trease b. abt 1787

I have also done autosomal DNA testing, and I match as a distant cousin more than one person who is a descendant of Michael's sibling(s).  Of course the assumed family tree is based on traditional genealogy research by others and myself.  Two Michaels could explain how I share Michael's parent(s) as an ancestor with some other testers, yet Michael himself also matches lineage 1 in the project -- they could be two different people/families.

We really need some more descendants of Michael and George in the project, since no clear pattern has emerged yet.

Feel free to add your thoughts to this discussion or contact me.

 on: August 15, 2014, 08:20:43 AM 
Started by Randy Harr - Last post by Randy Harr
As our former Wiki page did not transfer to this new site, history of the group and its transformation have been lost.  Here is an attempt to capture a summary to date.

Tim Peterson started the group over 10 years ago. His stated goal then was to finally lay to rest the claims of linkage (or not) between the Charles Hoar and Hezekiah Hoar lines of North America.  But the group lay dormant for 6 years with Tim's cousin being the only participant.

Randy Harr tested in early 2011 as he hit a roadblock in traditional research. Roz Edson of the Horr Project of North America had already assisted him in discovering his surname change from Horr to Harr in 1900.  But records earlier than 1800 were not forthcoming.  Upon testing, Randy showed a strong match to Gordon Hoard who had extensive research and ties to the Hezekiah Hoar line of North America.  Randy joined the DNA surname project with Tim only to discover Gordon and his results were quite distinct from Tim's relative. Roz had her relative tested and he also linked to Randy and Gordon.  So Randy and Roz started recruiting more to get tested and offered to co-admin the group with Tim.

Others started getting tested and introduced new lines.  But almost all lines, like previousl published research, claimed lineage to the Hore family of Risford Manor in Chagford, Devon.  So the project has evolved into one of trying to catalog and distinguish lines of middle-ages England.  We use DNA testing as just another tool in genealogical research to more definitively define lines of ancestry.  Not that the Risford Manor Hore's are distinctive in any way or should have a stronger desire for people to be a part of.  But more to help uncover the additional lines that need to be researched to the extant that the Risford Hore's have been. And maybe to genetically type Richard Hore of the 1300's if that is possible to ascertain.

 on: August 12, 2014, 03:54:18 PM 
Started by Biscuits - Last post by Clara J. Miller
I had my DNA done thru 23andme as a Christmas gift last Year from my Son
My GGG-Grandfather was Patrick O'Conner His wife Sarah Elizabeth ? was of Lumbee Indian decent.
I am U5b2a2 - Haplogroup - U5 - Subgroup R
I am 5th. generation Lumbee decent
Me - My Mother - My Grandmother - My G-Grandmother - My GG-Grandmother
And My GGG- Grandmother Sarah Elizabeth ? O'Conner
I would love to find out her birth name.
Thank You

 on: August 12, 2014, 03:40:42 PM 
Started by Biscuits - Last post by Clara J. Miller
Feel free to discuss anything about genealogy or DNA here.  Ideas, suggestions, problems, or questions about the website are also welcome.  Scroll down through the listings below to find the topics of interest to you, or start a new topic. 

I had my DNA done thru 23andme as a Christmas gift last year.
I am U5b2a2 - Haplogroup - U5 - Subgroup R
My GGGGrandfather was Patrick O'Conner born in Ireland married Sarah Elizabeth ? ( said to be Lumbee Indian )
Her Mother must have been too. Because I am 5th. generation Lumbee.
My DNA follows my Mother - Grandmother - GGGrandmother -and on.
But Can not find Sarah Elizabeths maiden name.
Thank You

 on: August 11, 2014, 10:31:54 AM 
Started by Mark S. Painter - Last post by Sam Stimson
Thanks for the information Mark. I have just discovered my birth parents and both lines are from Germany. One on the Dutch border (Koller later Culler) and (Greter later Crater) My particular line seem to have settled in North Carolina after a short stop in PA.

Sam Stimson

 on: August 10, 2014, 08:39:48 PM 
Started by Terry Barton - Last post by FlynnBoles
Julia Flynn - FTDNA 341270, mtDNA HV-T16311C! in 2014
3X GGM   
Dorothea Donnerberg, m. Christian Westeroth
 - Marie Friedericke Westeroth, b.25 Apr 1846 in Rhoden Kreis Halberstadt Germany, d. Bet. 1877-1880 in Texas, m. William Thiele II

 - - Olga Thiele, b. 29 Mar 1872 in Texas, d. 17 Aug 1962 in Seguin, Guadalupe, Texas, m. Louis G Nagel
 - - Emma Sophie Thiele, b. 15 Jun 1874 in Texas, d. 16 Nov 1935 in Guadalupe, Seguin Texas, m. Carl Elley
 - - Elisabetha Thiele, b. Abt. 1861 in Texas
 - - Margaret Thiele, b. 30 Mar 1864 in New Braunfels, Texas, d. 08 Oct 1943 in New Braunfels, Comal, Texas, m. Fritz Elley
 - - Mary Thiele, b. Nov 1866 in Texas, m. Gustav Koepsel
 - - Hulda Thiele, b. 1877 in Texas

 - - - Iola Olga Nagel, b. 3 Nov, 1907 in Texas, d. 7 May 1994 in Austin, Texas, m. Marvin A Koch
 - - - Hulda M Nagel, b. Oct 1893 in Texas, d. 18 Jan 1967 in Seguin, Texas, m. Wesley W Koepsel
 - - - Laura Nagel, b. 27 Feb 1897 in Texas, d. 4 Aug 1980, in Guadalupe Co, Texas, m. Louis C Glaeser
 - - - Marguerite (Margaret) Nagel, b. 26 Mar 1899 in Texas, d. 9 Feb 1987 in Seguin, Texas, m. Hugo G Schmitt
 - - - Alice Julia Nagel, b. 2 Sep 1905, d. 7 Jan 1986, m. James R Pennington
 - - - Virginia Jane Nagel, b. 15 Jul 1914 in Texas, d. 10 Apr 2000 in San Antonio, Texas, m. Sylvester R Dramberger
 - - - - Norma Ann Koch, b. 1934 in Seguin Texas, m. James F Flynn
 - - - - - Julia A Flynn

 on: August 10, 2014, 02:59:13 PM 
Started by OConnor - Last post by Mike Walsh
Perhaps as more people test.. these snps might prove to be common.
The R1b-L21-project yahoo group has shared file storage and links for sharing Big Y and FGC raw results. There are also a number of people doing analysis on the data.

We have almost 390 L21+ Big Y results and a good number of FGC results too.  We'll have 500 L21+ Big Y results soon given our pending orders. 

Make sure to look at Alex Williamson's L21 "Big Tree". It's what I call an SNP depth chart (phylogenetic equivalents shown) in a tree format. The R-L21 plus project background screens have the latest "working draft" descendants tree (simplified with one SNP per branch).

 on: August 10, 2014, 12:07:15 PM 
Started by Gens Galeria - Last post by Gens Galeria
Dear Crawfords, as You know, I've been tested for the SNPs : L2+/ Z367+/Z384+/L20+/CTS1939+/PF129+/Z383+ , but I'm negative for Z291, Z1910 and CTS9733C (in fact I'm CTS9733T).
Have you been tested in these last times for anyone of these SNPs?  I'm waiting for my Geno 2.0 results, which will be published next 30 September.

My best regards, Marco Grassi

 on: August 08, 2014, 10:54:54 PM 
Started by Aggi-Rose Reddin - Last post by larzus
Darby Reddan, b. 1800 Tipperary, Ireland; d. c1883 Borrisokane, Tipperary, Ireland m. unknown
John Reddin/Redding/Reading, b. 1820 Larrah, Tipperary, Ireland; d. 1893 Kempton, TAS, Australia  m. 1856 Mary Ann McKinley Oatlands, TAS, Australia
Thomas Reading b 1863 Kempton, TAS, Australia; d 1931 Apsley, TAS, Australia m. Esther Brown 1903 Kempton, TAS, Australia

Kit Number 336407 FF only

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