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The FTDNA test brought back a result of M269, and the 23 test showed a result of L23- but having L49 positive.

I'd be very grateful to you if you communicate us your markers' results and any information about you. If you aren't the troll who knows much of genetics and writes frequently to me but a real person with these results, you could be the first L23- and L49+, and it would be very interesting.

Hey! That is big news (especially for me) since that's my kit!!!

Great news, congrats !!!  :)

I've been reading this thread for clues as to my ancestry within the R1b1a2a haplogroup. I tested both at FTDNA (67 markers) and at 23 and me. The FTDNA test brought back a result of M269, and the 23 test showed a result of L23- but having L49 positive.

I'm just starting off exploring this all in depth, since there's really no further genealogical records available to source my search from. The markers I show at FTDNA aren't the same as you were discussing, either, but this is the only thread that comes close to the subject that I am interested in discussing.

I can type out the DYS markers if you need to have a look to see. What are relevant markers you all are interested in?

While my father's side of the YDNA isn't Balkan, his mother's is. I get a lot of Southern European DNA hits from gedmatch, and traceable family history to the area. 

I was totally surprised...

Why? I have written a lot, and from many years, about the possible origin of this "Balkan cluster" from some introgression in the Jewish pool probably in France or in the Rhine region. Also recently I have written something, and the spread and the ancientness of this subclade of R-L21 makes me curious about that Italian guy from Ravenna, linked to this cluster, I excluded to be R-L21, given its extreme rarity in my country.
Probably that American found comes from the Isles, due to his two mutations.

I agree.

I would like to see more continentals test for Z251 now that we have discovered that the Baltic Cluster is Z251+.

I must admit I was totally surprised when I saw that positive result, but it is cool.

L583+ would now be underneath Z251. At least that is my learned assumption, because there is not really any possibility that the other Z251+  tested people would be L583+ since only three of the Baltic Cluster are L583+ and the rest that have tested are L583-

Well, certainly Godwin and McNaught are Z251+ L583- based on their recent Geno 2.0 results, and I'll take bets that all the other non-Baltic Cluster Z251+ are L583- as well.

Hey! A representative of the Baltic Cluster, whose members, thus far, are all Ashkenazim, tested Z251+ today: ancestral surname Yurzditsky, kit 193834.

That seems pretty big news to me.

Hey! That is big news (especially for me) since that's my kit!!!

L583+ would now be underneath Z251. At least that is my learned assumption, because there is not really any possibility that the other Z251+  tested people would be L583+ since only three of the Baltic Cluster are L583+ and the rest that have tested are L583-

Kit 190814
Still new to all this, I have hit a solid and hard road Block on my most distant known [Hiram] ancestor.  I also cant seem to link to any other match with other 'Crenshaw' even though the DNA match on 37 markers :(

I think I set up to link through ftdna though not sure

Hiram Jackson Crenshaw
b 1815 VA d 1884 MO

William Thomas Crenshaw
b1851 MO d 1932

Glen Hiram Crenshaw
b1889 d1940

Glenivan J Crenshaw
b1918 d1996

Hi Maliclavelli :)

Thank you, again. :)

So it is basically just 'Albanian', which must mean that some stayed 'home' and some migrated, I suppose.

~ Albanians - still 'at home'.

~ Albanian / Greek Arvanites. My ancestors.

~ Albanian Italian Arbanesh / Arbereshet. Your ancestors, I believe?


Does anyone yet know ~ did more leave or stay?

And with the descendents of those who stayed, is this still a highly representative cluster for native Albanians?

Fascinating stuff!

Yes it is. More among Albanian in kosovo.

Jason how far are we from eachother DNA wise? On the French DNA group I'm in the A0 Family Group my FTDNA is 148371

Dear Brousse,

Using the "expanded" Brousse DNA signature (kit 36452), we are a genetic distance of 18 out of 67 markers.  This works out to be approximately 1320 years ago (common ancestor c. 693 AD).

How do you calculate the number of years for a gd? I have a gd of 15 at 67 markers with a French SRY2627 person and was wondering what the time frame would be.

Thanks!

Here is what I do.  Go to this webpage:  http://www.mymcgee.com/tools/yutility.html?mode=ftdna_mode

Change mutation rate to FTDNA, and years/generation to 33. 

Paste a string of DNA markers for each of the two people you are comparing (this can be a bit tricky) and click execute.  It will tell you the GD and estimated years between the two.