on: February 14, 2014, 12:22:00 PM
Started by Terry - Last post by Bob46
My earliest known Patton is Dr. Joseph Patton who was born in Tenn. and I have lost the Patton line there. Pedigree including Census records are as follows:
From 1850 Indiana index
(Note Spelling as Patten in this record)
PATTEN,Joseph Mari 434 Pike b.1826 TN. m. Artemisa Hiffner (Different spellings for her)
Census information:Source PNANNYLOIS@aol.com]
It looks like Joseph Patton was born in Tennessee.
The Census list only 3 children from 1850 to 1880.
2 Girls Eliza A born abt 1851
Sarah J. born abt 1884
1 Son John C. born 1857 all born in Indiana.
Census Information about Joseph C Patton is as follows:
1850 U.S. Census
Tennessee, Maury, Unknown Townships
October 8 1850 - Living with a L.C. Beale also a Physician and Wife M. M.
Joseph C Patton
Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: 1827
Birth Place: Tennessee
Home in 1850
(City,County,State): District 25, Maury, Tennessee
1860 U.S. Census >Indiana >Marion >Pike
June 11 1860
Age in 1860: 33
Birthplace: Virginia (Contradiction to TN)
Home in 1860: Pike, Marion, Indiana
Post Office: Augusta Station
Head of Household: Joseph Patton
1870 United States Federal Census > Iowa > Story > Franklin
August 4 1870
Age in 1870: 44
Estimated Birth Year: 1825
Home in 1870: Franklin, Story, Iowa
Post Office: Ontario
Occupation; Veterinary Surgeon
1880 United States Federal Census > Iowa > Jasper > All Townships > District 90
June 22 1880
J. D. ( Should be C) PATTON
Estimated birth year:
Home in 1880: Clear Creek, Jasper, Iowa
Marital status: Married
Head of household: J. C. PATTON
Father's birthplace: TN
Mother's birthplace: TN
Image Source: Year: 1880; Census Place: Clear Creek, Jasper, Iowa; Roll: T9_346; Family History Film: 1254346; Page: 2D; Enumeration District: 90; Image: 0229.
(1)Dr. Joseph C Patton m. Artimisa Hiffner
(2) Elizabeth Patton (Infant death)
William H Patton
Eliza Ann Patton
Sarah Jane Patton
John Calvin Patton
(3) Rollie Gillett Patton
(4) Lloyd Zell Patton
(5) Patricia Ann Patton (Stillborn)
Lloyd Wendall Patton
Judy Mae Patton
Jane Ann Patton
Robert Leslie Patton
Mark Allen Patton
Ada Eldora Patton
Nora Irene Patton
Fawn Leona Patton
David Clarence Patton
Guy McKinley Patton
John Morris Patton
I have submitted my DNA and awaiting results. Any help with the Tenn. connection would be greatly appreciated.
Pedigree provider another Bob Patton: email: firstname.lastname@example.org Kit #330430
on: February 12, 2014, 09:00:24 PM
Started by James Lynch - Last post by James Lynch
An Irish family named LYNCH went to Jamaica and were very successful merchants there (no relation to Sir. Thomas Lynch, one-time Governor of Jamaica).
As more kin came over, even doing so well, at some point they were unable to support everyone so the newer arrivals were asked to find their fortune elsewhere.
About 1700, two went to Barbados - I believe an Anthony and a Dominick - and also did well there. I believe one of Anthony's descendants, a Hassell Lynch, sired my ancestor.
Since apart from a will there are no records that prove his existence (no records of birth, baptism, christening, marriage, death or burial have been found) I have no documented proof of that, but apparently my DNA matches well with one of the direct descendant male Jamaica Lynch family (now in the USA) so I seem to be on the right path.
From the records I have found, the Barbados Lynch family disappeared from the island about 1800, and I have been unable to find any trace of them. They may have emigrated en masse, or they may all have died in one of the cholera epidemics.
Dominick and Anthony, "Merchants of Barbadoes", are named as Executors in a Philadelphia will, but I have been unable to find any ties between the Barbados Lynch family and any Lynch in Philly - or anywhere along the eastern seaboard they would have traded with.
If you know of a Lynch family who have connections to Barbados and/or Jamaica, I would seriously appreciate a contact.
Thanks much in advance...
James C. "Jim" :Lynchhttp://www.candoo.com/contactform/index.htm
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on: February 12, 2014, 03:15:33 PM
Started by Adrian Ballard - Last post by Adrian Ballard
Thanks for taking the time to join :-)
The mutation was found in Geno 2.0 test data and several others have this snp - it may be random or it may be a new Terminal snp - more data from more testers will be required to establish this.
Hope that was helpfull
on: February 12, 2014, 01:23:59 PM
Started by Willows - Last post by JeanL
Hi I just recently tested my maternal grandfather's younger sister, and per 23andme she is U4b, however 23andme doesn't test for U4b3, and she does carry 263G on the HVR-II, so I'm thinking she is likely U4b3, here is her information according to James Lick mitochondrial program:
HVR2: 73G 215G 263G 499A
CR: 750G 1438G 1811G 2706G 4418C 4646C 4769G 5999C 6047G 7028T 7403G 7705C 8860G 11467G 11696A 11719A 12308G 12372A 14620T 14766T 15693C
HVR1: 16129A 16356G (16519C)
Note however that 16356G is in fact 16356C, is not a flip, is just that 23andme reports it as a T=>G mutations instead of A=>C. She doesn't have anyone in her relative list(999+ people) with the U4b mt-DNA haplogroup, which seems to be very rare. It seems U4b3 is old because she carries 4 extra mutations 4418C 7403G 11696A 16129A, which is probably an underestimate since 23andme doesn't test the full mitochondrial genome. Relative to U4b she carries 5 extra mutations 4418C 7403G 11696A 16129A and 215G she actually happens to be one of the defining mutations of U4b3. Her last known ancestor is supposedly from Spain, but I have no idea where she might have really been from, thus far I've only seen a U4b3 from Russia, so it is very interesting, she does have a Russian match of 12 cM on her Chromosome 1, and so does my mother, they both carry the same segment.
on: February 12, 2014, 02:28:52 AM
Started by Adrian Ballard - Last post by sergio
I know you are busy so please take it easy and just reply when you are really free, I ve got a question how did you manage to discover you belong to the CTS4528 - Subgroup, did you do a depth Y DNA test or did you just ordered an Advanced SNP Test from ftDNA?
on: February 11, 2014, 03:43:23 PM
Started by Bob Thomas - Last post by palamede
Except some rare markers but a lot downstairs of M269, it is impossible to distinguish between Wales, Lancashire, Scotland and Ireland.
To repair haplogroups see from R1b1a2-M269 in the ISOGG treehttp://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR.html
From STR-111, some SNP predictors could give you more precision than the basic M269.
I don't know the precision for R1b of the Athey predictorhttp://www.hprg.com/hapest6/
Within L21, you have the Casey predictorhttp://www.rcasey.net/DNA/R-L21_SNP_Predictor_Intro.html
L21 is more than 60% of the people in Wales, Lancashire, Scotland and Ireland.
Try it, you will got a probability.
Robert Casey writes posts on http://www.anthrogenica.com/forumdisplay.php?42-R
For the remaining R1b, the main groups are U106, DF27, U152 , L11*, L51*, M269*
U106 is considered as the Anglo-Saxon marker (true or false ?) dominant haplogroup in East England, but not rare in your four locations
DF27 has some percents in these locations.
U152 is more frequent in East England and Scotland
L51* very rare in Isles except a presence in Navan region, North of Dublin.
For L11* frequent enough in Central England see http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/r1b1a2a1a
For M269*, not frequent in Isles , Maliclavelli a writer in this forum is a good specialist of STR haplotypes.