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 71 
 on: March 02, 2015, 08:54:09 PM 
Started by Terry Barton - Last post by Kettenring
Thank you. I have read this entire thread and it is most informative. I recently ordered the SRY2627 test from FTDNA because I have three close matches at 67 markers who are all SRY 2627. When the result returns I will have several questions and observations. I am grateful for all the thought you people have put into this thread.

 72 
 on: March 02, 2015, 07:39:39 PM 
Started by OdumAdmin - Last post by Eldon
131458 James Winton Odum Jr./ Linda Odum Tidwell

Thomas Oham
Born 1814
Tennessee
Married Manerva J. Unknown

John R. Odum
Born 1848
Tennessee
Married Margaret "Peggy" Morgan

Ambros M. Odum
Born 1868
Jackson Co. Tennessee
Married Settie Scantland

Perry Odum
Born 1898
Jackson Co. Tennessee
Married Martha Leona Hix

Linda,
Your Thomas b. 1814 may be a younger brother to my Simeon b. 1799/1800.  I believe that Simeon was a son of Ceburt ODAM who died in 1831.  My Simeon married Sarah Hatfield.  See below for list of their children:
         William ODAM, 1819/1820 TN
          Lavica ODAM, 1822 TN
          Leann ODAM, 1824 TN
          Hiram ODAM, 1825 TN
          Zedikiah ODAM, 1831 IL
          Ira F. ODAM, 1838 IL
          Mary ODAM, 1838 IL
          Arvilla ODAM, 1841 IL 


 73 
 on: March 02, 2015, 07:26:08 PM 
Started by Terry Barton - Last post by Jason Bourgeois
Yes.  No one has posted for quite some time though.

 74 
 on: March 02, 2015, 10:57:08 AM 
Started by Terry Barton - Last post by Kettenring
TEST 123

Is this forum still functioning?

 75 
 on: February 28, 2015, 06:04:07 PM 
Started by Megabolt - Last post by Megabolt
The lastest subgrouping (unofficial) for this line is R1b-U198/S1690/S1686/S15627/DF89/FGC12791*
ie, it is now  R1b-FGC12791*

 76 
 on: February 27, 2015, 12:06:50 AM 
Started by William Thomas Farrar, III - Last post by William Thomas Farrar, III
Kit 372511, Charles R Farrar
Contact farrar1036atmsndotcom
Name of Earliest Known Ancestor William FARRAR b. 28 Dec 1571 m. Margaret Lacey

o .John FARRAR b. 2 Dec 1550, Croxton, Lincoln, England d. bef 28 May 1628 m. Sissely KELKE

..William FARRAR b 28 Apr 1583, Yorkshire, England d 11 Jun 1637, Henrico, VA m Cecily JORDAN

...William FARRAR II, b 1627, VA d 11 Feb 1678 m Mary Pigott BAUGH

....William FARRAR III b 1657, Farrar's Island, VA d 1721, VA m Priscilla BAUGH

o .....William Farrar IV, b 1682 Farrar's Island, Va d 1743 married cousin Sarah Farrar dtr of Thomas Farrar (son of Maj William III)

......Richard FARRAR .. b abt 1721 Goochland Va D. aft 1782 m. Elizabeth Sanders

.......Stephen FARRAR b. 20 Mar 1757 Goochland Va D bet 1797-1800 m. Catherine Lansford
….......Henry Lansford Farrar b. 1782 VA  D. Nov.19, 1850 AL m. (1) Salley Webb  (2) Obedience Kelly
…….......Winston Farrar b. abt 1814 GA  D.Nov.28, 1901 LA  m. (1) Kiziah Bass  (2) Emily Amanda Morris
….........…Christopher Columbus FARRAR b. Oct.12, 1870 LA  D. Sept.25, 1906 m. Julia Alzadie Brazzel
……............Dewey Leonard FARRAR b.

 77 
 on: February 26, 2015, 01:12:00 PM 
Started by Larry Bentley - Last post by jenbur
Oscar Evans  B: 6/10/1894 Lawrence co,Oh d:6/19/1942 in Johnson Co, Ky
Spouse: Esther Keeton 1918   m: Mary Ann Morgan F: unknown Bentley
kit: 378596

Jennie Burrill    Ohiomysteries@gmail.com

 78 
 on: February 25, 2015, 09:52:07 PM 
Started by supertigerCH - Last post by hanh
yes .Northern Europe is the northern part of Europe or the region. Geographically Northern Europe are generally taken to Iceland, the Faroe Islands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and the British Isles (United Kingdom consist, Ireland, Channel Islands and Isle of Man)

 79 
 on: February 25, 2015, 07:25:22 PM 
Started by Dennis Waters - Last post by Dennis Waters
Added participants B12105 and 369945 and their line of descent from patriarch, William (1753-1803)

 80 
 on: February 25, 2015, 01:20:31 PM 
Started by Researcher79424 - Last post by Researcher79424
I am still researching my ancestor, Thomas Butler. He died in 1764 in Frederick County, Virginia. He was believed to originally have been born in Ireland.

I am interested in finding out who his parents were & his lineage.

This is what I do have on Thomas Butler as follows:

The following is compiled by Mr. Monte Morgan back in the late 90's, a fellow Butler researcher, who has put together the facts outlining Thomas Butler's ancestry & who he's been mistaken for as follows:

"THOMAS BUTLER
(ca. 1720 ??? to 1764 Frederick Co, VA)
by Monte H. Morgan
St. Louis, MO

 The origin and ancestry of Thomas Butler of  Frederick County, Virginia has been the subject of much speculation for the
 simple reason that there is no "hard" information on those aspects of his life. The few facts that are known about this man, presented in the
 following paragraphs, while not establishing his lineage, do enable us to discredit some lineages that have been erroniously[sic] attributed to
 him.

Land record: Thomas Butler, no warrant, date from survey-18 Jan 1749-survey undated; 400 a. where he lives on Cedar
 Crk.; adjacent John Hueston & Andrew Vance. Chainmen: William Hueston & John Cook. Surveyor: John Baylis. (1)

 [Lease] Between Thomas Butler of County of Frederick [to] Peter Jordan of said County . . . consideration of five' shillings . . . all that tract of land containing Four hundred acres scituate lying and being on Cedar Creek granted to the said Thomas Butler by Deed from the ProprietorsOffice the 6th Jan 1752. . Yielding and paying rent of one Ear of Indian Corn on Lady Day next. . . signed Thomas Butler. Witnessed: John Funk, James Ireson, John Tipton. Recorded: 08 Sep 1756.(2)

 [Release] Between Thomas Butler of County of Frederick [to]Peter Jordan of the said County.....consideration of Seventy
 Pounds . . . 400 a.(same as above)..... signed Thomas Butler. Witnessed:John Funk, James Ireson, John Tipton. Recorded: 08 Sep 1756. (3)

 Joseph Butler, heir at law of Thomas Butler, assignee of Mathew Black; Warrant IS Jan 1749-50- Survey 11 Mar 1750151; 400a.
 where he lives [Mathew Black] on S. side of Cedar Crk.;adjacent land formerly surveyed for Col. James Wood, Jacob Funk, Lord Fairfax.
 Chainmen: David Johnson  & John Cook. Surveyor: William Baylis.

 Jane Butler to have her one-third. Thomas Butler proved to be heir at law before John Hite. Jean [sicl Butler made oath 30
 Sep. 1766 that  Thomas Butler died without a will as far as she knows & Joseph Butler is heir at law.(4)

 In 1764 there occurred several notable Indian raids in Shenandoah [was Frederick Co. at that time] County-one or two near
 Strasburg, one near Luray. On Cedar Creek a number of persons were killed, among them probably a Mr. Lyle and a Mr. Butler.(5)

 Historian N.N.Hill, Jr. writing about Thomas Butler III, grandson of Thomas Butler (cl720- 1764):

 "A few reminiscences of this, the earliest settler in this township
 [Jefferson Twp, Coshocton Co, OH] would not be inappropriate. His
 grandfather had been shot and killed by Indians close to his cabin, in
Virginia, while he was making a garden fence, and  his grandmother with
her youngest child, James, then seven years old,
 captured. Another son, Joseph, Thomas Butler's [the III] father who had
 recently been married was out in the field at work at the time, avoided
captivity, or perhaps death by fleeing to her husband, narrowly escaping
from a persuing Indian. Mrs. Butler effected her escape the second
 night after she was father, going for him there.(6) (see note at end)

 Thomas Butler left no will. An inventory dated 07Aug 1764 is recorded in Frederick County, VA.(7)

 Neighbors of Thomas Butler on Cedar Creek as determined from land records included: 21 Jul 1751-Bill of Sale-William Huston, Galor,
 sold to Peter Gordon hamor Man living in Pensilvany." (Also shown as Jorden.) Land adjacent: Thomas Butler's old place & "the place
 called John Moses place." signed William (x) Huston. Witnessed: Thomas Butler, John Hustoun, Bernard Dispineut (GS).(8)

 Henry Wetzel, forfeited from Jacob Funk, assignee of Patrick Black; Warrant 04 Sep 1750- Survey 12 Mar 1750/51; 455 a.
where he (Black) lives on Paddys Mill Creek, Cedar Creek; adjacent John Morse & Thomas Butler. Chainmen: John Cook & John Tipton.
 Surveyor: William Baylis.(9)

 The Funks and the Wetzels were later to remove to the Cheat River area of Monongalia Co, VA with Thomas Butler's sons, Joseph
 and Thomas II.

 Col. John Tipton married Mary Butler, d.o. Thomas Butler.(10)

 Andrew Vance (bc 1700) had 400 a. on Cedar Creek
 (where Andrew lived) surveyed by John Baylis on 09 Mar 1749/50. He received a
 Fairfax grant for the 400 a. (Located adjacent to John Richards and Thomas Butler) on 06 Mar 1752.. Andrew was deceased by 02 April 1754 when his will (19 Dec 1750) was proved in Frederick County Court. He willed all his land to sons Samuel, Andrew and Alexander. He left five
 shillings (and no more) to his son John. He appointed his wife Jane and son Samuel as executors.

 Witnessed: Thomas Butler, John Cook and William Huston.(11)

 [It is speculated that Thomas Butler may have married, secondly, this widow Jane Vance.] Three origins that have been
 erroneously attributed to Thomas Butler of Frederick County, Virginia are discussed in the following paragraphs.

 (I)

Thomas Butler of Stafford Co, VA son of James Butler, who deceased before 14 Jun 1732 (date will proved.)

(12) Thomas Butler, with brother James, on Quit Rent Roll for 1742. (Thomas with 250a.)

(13) Thomas Butler m. 07 Apr 1741 Mary Mason.

(14) Thomas Butler died 03 Dec 1743.(14) (Mary Butler remarried 04 Feb 1745 John Carter.)
(14)

 (II)

 Thomas Butler of Prince George's Co, MD, son of
 James Butler (b--d.before
21 Oct 1709 Prince George's Co, MD) and Joyce
(Carroll) Butler of Anne
 Arundel Co, MD (b--d. before June 1726 Prince
 George's Co, MD)
 This Thomas Butler was born 14 Jun 1707 Prince
 George's Co, MD in King
 George Parish.(15) Thomas m. 27 Oct 1733 Prince
 George's Co, MD,
 Elizabeth Chew.(16)
 Thomas had come into Orphans Court of Prince
 George's Co. MD in Jun 1776,
 being over 18 years and chose as guardian James
 Carroll of Anne Arundel
 Co, MD.(17)
 In 1742 Thomas Butler of Prince George's Co, MD
 signed a petition to
 Governor Thomas Bladen to create Frederick Co,
 MD.(18) This Thomas Butler
 has a long history of land ownership in the
 Hermitage tract in Frederick
 Co. [now Montgomery Co, MD] from 23 Nov 1749 to at
 least 16 Aug 1758 so
 he could not be the Thomas Butler of Frederick Co,
 VA.(19)

 (III)

 Thomas Boteler (Butler) of Prince George's Co, MD, son of Henry Boteler (bc.1667 Calvert Co, MD-d.before 05 Sep 1713 Prince
 George's Co, MD) and Catherine (Lingan) Boteler, daughter of George Lingan) (d.before 17 May 1708.)

 Thomas Boteler bc. 1710 Prince George's Co, MD and at age 17 chose Capt. John Middletown as his guardian.(20) This Thomas
 Boteler died before 21 Jun 1779 in Prince George's Co, MD where his inventory was recorded.(Book ST 1:117.) The inventory was witnessed by his two
 brothers, Edward and Charles Boteler. His wife, Mary Boteler, recorded the administration  accounting 23 Jul 5,1785 (Book ST 1:249.).(22)

So, at this writing this compiler can only rest
 with the common statement "Thomas Butler came from Ireland."

 REFERENCES

 I-Peggy Shomo Joiner; Abstracts of Virginia's Northern Neck Warrants & Surveys, Frederick Co, 1747-1780, Vol II; Portsmouth, VA, 1985; p 25.

 2-Amelia C. Gilbreath; Frederick Co, VA Deed Books 1,2,3,4, 1743-1758  Abstracted;Nokesville, VA 1989; Bk 4,p 181.

 3-Gilbreath; p 182.

 4-Joiner; p 25

5-John W. Wayland; A History of Shenadoah County, VA; Shenandoah Publishing House,  Strasburg, VA 1927; p 68.

 6-N.N.Hill, Jr.;History of Coshocton County, Ohio;A.A.Graham Co, Publishers, Newark, OH, 1881; p 567.

 7-Will Book 3, p 203, Winchester, VA.

 8-Joiner; p 83.

 9-Joiner; p 164

 10-Wayland; p 653.

11-Cecil O'Dell; Pioneers of Old Frederick Co, VA; Walsworth Publishing Co, Marceline, MO
 1995; p 301.

 12-Stafford Co, VA Will Book M, p 59-60. (James Butler names as his sons, James, William & Thomas.)

 13-John Vogt & T.W.Kethley, Jr.; Stafford Co, VA Tithables,Vol 1; Iberian Publishing Co Vol 1; Iberian Publishing Co, Athens, GA, 1990; p 49.

 14-George H.S. King; The Register of Overwharton Parish, Stafford Co, VA 1723-1758;Fredericksburg, VA 1961; p 15.

 15-Index To Register of King George's Parish 1689-1801;Prince George's Co. Genealogical
 Society, Inc; Bowie, MD; p 240 of Register.

 16-Index To Register of Prince George's Parish 1711-1798; Prince George's Co, Genealogical
 Society, Inc; Bowie, MD; p 229 of Register.

 17-Dorthy H. Smith; Orphans and infants of Prince George's Co, MD 1696-1750; Annapolis,
 MD, 1976; p 19.

 18-Grace L. Tracy and John P. Dern; Pioneers of old Monocacy; Genealogical Publishing Co, Inc, 1987; p 370.

 19-Patricia A. Andersen; Frederick Co, MD Land Records 17481761; various pages.

 20-Donna Valley Russell; The Boteler Family of Maryland; The American Genealogist, Vol 70- 1, Jan 1995; p 9-17.

 21-Charles D. Tipton; Tipton, The First Five American Generations; Gateway Press, Inc, Baltimore, MD, 1998; p 130-132.

 22-Maryland Genealogical Society Bulletin, Vol 8-1,Feb 1967; p 21-22.

 Note: This version of the indian raid and aftemath
 is very simular to one that was related by one of Col. John Tipton's
 sons many years latter."

Thomas Butler was born before 1720. Whether or not he was "a native of Ireland" as his great-grandson had asserted in Hill's History of Coshocton County, Ohio is unknown.

Thomas Butler was married to Jane Gilbert Vance. Jane Gilbert Vance might have been married previously to a Mr. Vance and her maiden name might have been Gilbert.

Thomas Butler had one dau. named Mary Butler, who was married to Colonel John Tipton of Tennessee.

Thomas Butler was killed in August 1764, according to Wayland's History of Shenandoah County, Virginia near his cabin. His wife, Jane Gilbert Vance was kidnapped along with one of her sons, James Butler. Jane Gilbert Vance, Thomas' wife, was fortunate enough to escape. Later, her son, James was able to be released via treaty at Carlisle, Pennsylvania.

Thomas Butler's parentage and lineage is currently unknown. However, it is highly unlikely that Thomas Butler was related to the illustrious House of Ormonde, the major Irish branch of Butlers, who made one of their family seats in County Kilkenny, Ireland. Their main castle was called Kilkenny Castle and was later sold for $1 by the late Marquess of Ormonde, according, to the late 28th Lord Dunboyne of the Butler Society of Ireland.

More information about Thomas Butler's children is as follows:

Joseph Butler was born in 1742. He married Elizabeth (Severns) in Frederick County, Virginia. His father, Thomas Butler, was killed by Indians August 1764. Joseph and Elizabeth (Severns) Butler lived in the Shenandoah Valley, Frederick County, Virginia until 1773. They later joined one of his siblings, Thomas Butler, Junior, respectively, and others in Monongalia County, Virginia. He made his settlement (home) on Dunkard Bottom, Cheat River, east of Laurel Hill, Virginia. On June 10, 1774, Joseph and Elizabeth, who now lived in Monongalia County, Virginia, sold 265-acres of their land, which was granted to him and his mother, possibly step-mother, Jane Gilbert-Butler. Jane's maiden name was Gilbert. Joseph and Elizabeth sold Jane's 1/3, which is 135-acres, on 5 November 1782. Eventually, he owned over 1200-acres of land in Monongalia County, Virginia and sold most of the land in Monongalia County, Virginia after he later moved to Coshocton County, Ohio. Joseph's brother-in-law, also named Joseph (Severns) represented him when Joseph sold the land.

Joseph (Butler) owned 12 "white" indentured servants in his household (1790 Census, Monongalia Co., VA). His tax list showed that he also had 4-slaves. Later, in 1793, he only had 1-slave and followed by NONE.

There are many court records of the Butler family located at the Library of West Virginia @ Morgantown, VA. The court house burned in 1796.

Now, I return to Joseph...he lived in Virginia until 1800 and in 1803, he and his 6 sons were living in Coshocton County, Ohio.

Joeph Butler served in the 7th, 9th, and 10th Regiments of the Virginia Continental Line (Army), that is, during the American Revolution. Joseph is mentioned in "Virginian's in the Revolution" (Gwathney, 117). The 7th, 9th, and 10th Regiments of the Virginia Continental Line Army has been accepted by DAR and is on record @ the National Headquarters of DAR in Washington, D.C. (You can find their mailing address via directory assistance or even better @ yellowpages.com!). Joseph passed away on 15 January 1811 based upon the Bill of Sale of his property, which is dated January Court, 1813, Coshocton County, Ohio. His tombstone reads, "March, 1811, aged 69 years." (Obviously, they were a family of few words). The probate of Joseph's estate didn't occur until after his grand-daughter, Maria, which was Isaac (one of Joseph's kids) became of age. Elizabeth Butler (her maiden name was Severns) passed away at the ripe old age of 77 in February, 1813, based upon the epithet on her tombstone. Elizabeth and Joseph's son, Isaac passed away in April 1809 and was buried in a private cemetary on Joseph's former land, which is located on the 1st hillside east of the Mohawk Dam, approximately 150-feet above Highway 36.

Unfortunately, the stones were broken, but the good news is that a descendant of Benjamin Butler (another Butler member that was distantly related to the Butlers of Frederick Co., VA) had new stones placed at the grave. Recent reports (from the 1960's--not very recent) mentioned that vandals bothered the grave again.

There's a peculiar will located in Jefferson Township, Coshocton Co., OH that is dated 3 March 1811 (Will Book "A", P. 21) and was signed by Joseph and Elizabeth (Severns) Butler. The witnesses to the testament and will were Thomas and William Bird, Ezra Horton and John Butler, a son of Joseph's, who was the administrator. Historically, Coshocton County, Ohio was not established until 1 April 1811, which would appear that the original will must be located elsewhere and the will and testament of Joseph and Elizabeth Butler located @ Coshocton Co., OH was a transcription of the original will; however, this is mere speculation. The final estate settlement was declared 11 December 1826 in Coshocton Co., OH; whereupon, "Maria Butler, the youngest child of Isaac, having come of age," and Joseph's land was sold to his grand-daughter, that being, Maria Butler, daughter of Isaac Butler, respectively. The land was located "southwest quarter of section number 6, and northwest quarter of section 15, in the 6th township and 8th range of the unappropriated lands in the U.S. Military District that was required and directed to be sold @ Zanesville, being all those parts or parcels of said quarters with lays on the north or east side of the 'White Woman.'

Joseph Butler, who married Elizabeth Severns had the following children (**Please note: ALL of their children were born in VIRGINIA):

(i) John, b. ~1765

(ii) Thomas, b. October 1769; married Elizabeth; died 1853 (Note: The Severns family were related to the Darlings of Warsaw, Mr. E. O. Rodehaver of Walhonding, and the very Rev. Don Richardson Fray).

(iii) Joseph Butler, Jr., b. ~1767 and d. ~1853

(iv) Benjamin, b. 18 April 1779; m. Leah Rogers of Crab Orchard, VA, 2 May 1799; d. 4 June 1872 and was buried @ Danville (Workman's Cemetary), etc.

**(v) Isaac, b. 1780; d. April 1809 @ 29 years old, buried betwixt his parents. Isaac was credited with building the first log schoolhouse in the community and hiring a teacher from MA to teach the Butler children & their neighbors. Isaac had (2) daughters: Elizabeth and Maria.

(vi) James, d. ~1832 on the Mohican. He was an ancestor of Miss Clara Johnson of Blair, NE

(vii) a daughter, with no name given along with no information (I wonder if she got anything?)

I have Joseph Butler born in Virginia
in 1742, and in 1758 he had 120 acres of farmland in Dinwiddie Co., VA. He was my very great uncle who was amongst the many sons of Thomas Butler. Here is the ancestral pedigree:

I. A) Thomas Butler
b. Ireland and had a brother ALSO
named Joseph Butler
d. 1764, Shenandoah Co., VA from
an Indian attack--he was planting
his vegetables in his garden
and his wife (my very great-
grandmother, Jane Gilbert-Vance Butler was
kidnapped along with one of their sons,
James Butler, who was killed by the Indians
at the tender age of 7 in 1764, the same
year my very great-grandfather passed away.

i. Richard Butler
b. Ireland before 1760 and sailed to America with his brothers & parents
d. 28 October 1791 from (guess again...)
Indians! :( He was scalped from the tomahawk
of an Indian a day after he became Major-General. He was Lt.-Col. prior to his new rank and untimely death.

ii. Edward Butler
b. Ireland
d. unknown

iii. William Butler, Sr.
b. Ireland
d. Roane County, TN; died after
1762, specific date UNKNOWN
*NOTES: William Butler, Sr. had brought many
slaves from his former home in Bedford Co.,
VA.
m. Anne Duckett; date unknown

iv. Thomas Butler, Junior
title: Captain in the Battle of Brandywine
b. 6 May 1747 (Ireland?)
notes:Thomas Butler, Junior was a law student
in Philadelphia, 1776
d. 5 September 1805; Wayne Co., OH

v. Robert Butler
b. ~1750 (Ireland)
d. ~1818; Dunkard Bottom, "Old Justice"
Preston County, VA History (pp. 405-8, vol. 5)

vi. James Butler
b. 1757
d. 7 years old, VA

vii. Joseph Butler
b. 1742
notes: Virginia Continental Line
1758; bought 120 acres in Dinwiddie Co., VA

viii. Mary Butler
m. Colonel John Tipton
ix. Percival Butler
b. Carlisle, PA
notes: became lt. @ 18

X. John Butler
1764 had 835 acres in Halifax County, VA

Sincerely,

Jason Simmons

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