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 on: January 08, 2015, 03:28:39 PM 
Started by WebMaster - Last post by WebMaster
Welcome to the forum for this Surname Project.  Feel free to post anything that pertains to the surname’s genealogy, DNA research, or to a specific family that is included in the Surname Project.

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3.  Follow instructions for submitting your pedigree.

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 on: January 08, 2015, 03:28:15 PM 
Started by WebMaster - Last post by WebMaster
We invite you to submit your "Pedigree" for this Surname.   Our Surname Project is primarily interested in your Paternal line, as surnames are passed down from father to son, just as the yDNA is passed down. 

If you ARE A MEMBER of this Surname Project at Family Tree DNA, send your pedigree by email to at  The pedigree will then be posted on the Surname Project's Patriarchs Page by or sent to the Project’s Administrator.

Please include the following:  (If you have more information you would like to share, you may also post a more extended version of your family pedigree on the project website’s Pedigree Forum below)
•       Name of project
•       Kit Number
•       Name of person posting pedigree
•       Email address to be posted with pedigree
•       Name, birthdate, birthplace, spouse of Earliest Known Ancestor
•       List each succeeding generation, using only those four items of information (or substitute another item of information if missing an item)

If you are NOT A MEMBER of this Surname Project at Family Tree DNA, you are welcome to post your pedigree on the Pedigree Forum below.  We hope an interested researcher will see it and contact you to share information.

To post on this Pedigree Forum:
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2.  When you have logged in, scroll to the last posting on this forum, click "reply" and post your pedigree.
a.  Please do not include names for anyone born after 1910, to protect privacy.
b.  If you have questions or are unable to post your pedigree on this forum, please contact

For a step-by-step guide to using DNA for genealogy, please read DNA the Smart Way

 on: January 08, 2015, 03:19:58 PM 
Started by Eric Lester - Last post by WebMaster
My email address: dbones96 AT
Kit number:  I have not submitted any DNA tests at this point. Will do so later.

Oldest Lester individual:
1. Thomas Lester:  b. unknown; d. 1787, Pittsylvania Co., VA. Spouse:Sytha/Sythia/Syntha possibly Lucas.(d. unknown)
2. William Lester: b. circa. 1775 in Pittsylvania Co., VA.; d. 19 Aug. 1854 in Milton (Pike Co.), Illinois. Spouse: Isabella Lapsley; 30 Dec. 1774 in Rockridge Co., VA.; d. 10 Sep. 1855 in Milton, Illinois.
3. James L. Lester; b.16 Nov. 1800 Adair Co., KY.; d. 10 July 1853 in Russell Co., KY.
Spouse: Amanda Caldwell: b. 11 Dec. 1806 in Adair Co., KY.; d. 9 Sep. 1853 in Russell Co., KY.
4. James Milton Lester: b. 25 Aug 1836 in Russell Co., KY.; d. 3 Jun. 1910 in Russell Co., KY.
Spouse: Mary Boyd: b. 26 Dec. 1842 in Russell County, KY.; d. 1 Feb. 1921 in Russell Co., KY.
5. Dr. W. Everett Lester: b. 12 Sep. 1875 in Russell Co., KY.; d. 10 Apr. 1964 in Liberty (Casey Co.), KY. Spouse: Willie Faye Winfrey: b. 18 Feb. 1888 in Russell Co., KY.: d. 3 Mar. 1980 in Liberty, KY.
6. Dr. Woodrow Lester: b. 13 May 1913 in Liberty, KY.; d. 13 Jun. 1994 in Liberty, KY.
Spouse: Mary Louise Cornell: b. 8 Jun. 1916 in Mason City, Iowa; d. 22 Feb. 2013 in Liberty, KY.

 on: January 08, 2015, 03:21:12 AM 
Started by John W. Pruett - Last post by John W. Pruett
A flowchart of the Terminal SNPs of our Pruett/Pruitt/Prewitt Family DNA Groups has been added to the bottom of the Y-Results Page.  The "Pruett/Pruitt/Prewitt Family Groups are divided into the two Haplogroups, I and R.  There are two of our Family Groups in Haplogroups I which originated in northern Europe.  There are four Family Groups, along with most unassigned members, in Haplogroup R or R1b which originated in western Europe.

Terminal SNPs are defined as the lowest known subclade or branch on the family tree of humans.  An explanation of the Haplogroups with charts can be found in an article by Bennett Greenspan and Dr. Michael F. Hammer :

It appears that all our DNA members had ancestors who once lived in the British Isles.  The M-269 SNP, which all of our R1b members are positive for, is considered to be a SNP that originated in the British Isles.  

Advances have occurred recently though the Big-Y test and other individual SNP testing.  The goal is to have a tree chart that will reach back to our ancestors in this country.  

All of Family Group A and B members are descended from DF13.  DF13 is a man who lived in the British Isles and has over 400 different descendants/branches right now.  Its possible Family Group F might also be positive for the DF13 test.  Members in Family Group C have not been tested for DF13 and have a test pending for U-152.

 on: January 07, 2015, 11:48:12 PM 
Started by Terry Trimble - Last post by Linda Lou (Sauer) Fisher
This is the pedigree for my mother's brother, Carol Alvn Trimble, kit #382815

James Trimble (b 1774 KY; d 1830 IN) m. Sarah Hinton
  William James Trimble (b 1795 KY; d 1844 Mexico) m. Amelia Wells
     Francis Marion Trimble (b 1841 TX; d 1923 TX) m. Lucy Ann Melissa Thames
       Reason Seth Trimble (b 1875 TX; d. 1955 TX) m. Alien Mae Mogford
          Carol Alvin Trimble (b 1929 TX

I have at two or three candidates for the father of this James Trimble but no proof.  I am trying to connect my family to the original Trimbles who came to this country and where they originated in Scotland/Ireland.

I am Linda (Sauer) Fisher (
granddaughter of Reason Seth Trimble
daughter of Winnie Mae (Trimble) Sauer

 on: January 07, 2015, 10:56:02 PM 
Started by Declan Tracey - Last post by jjtjr
Patrick Treacy b. c. 1794 Carhoon, Tynagh, Galway; d. 1878; m.  Mary Egan

Edward Treacy b. c. 1830 Tynagh/Derrew, Galway; d. 1916; m. Bridget Boland 

Michael Charles Treacy b. 1866 Derrew, Kilquain, Gallway; d. 26Aug1919; m. Margaret G. Flynn
James J. Treacy b. 1908 Quincy, MA; d. 27Jul1992; m. Marion R. Hurley

 on: January 07, 2015, 05:17:06 PM 
Started by ForsythAdmin - Last post by Petina Danenberg
James Forsythe m Ann Beattie

James Forsythe b.c. 1835 County Tyrone, N Ireland m Summer Somerville 11 Jan 1855 Newtonstewart, Country Tyrone, N Ireland

Joseph Forsythe b. 14 Nov 1872 Gortin, County Tyrone, N Ireland m. Alice Caroline Townsend 22 May 1895 Christchurch, New Zealand d. 24 Aug 1954 Christchurch, New Zealand

James and Summer Forsythe emigrated with their 9 children to Canterbury, New Zealand in 1873

Kit 353606

 on: January 07, 2015, 12:55:13 PM 
Started by Marilyn Teaff Barton - Last post by Vickie Glover-Phillips
Hi, my name is Vickie Glover-Phillips,

I have been a member on this site for several years and I wanted to post my pedigree again but can't seem to do it!  My brother submitted his Ancestry DNA test to the web page last night and I am just trying to give a pedigree so you can tye it to him

Kit number will be for James Edward Glover:

Robert Glover b 1762 TN d unknown M July Choate
           Will W Glover b 1872 TN d 1935 TN  M Julia Joiner
                  Wesley Lee Glover b 1921 TN D 1979 Butte County CA M Lettie Mai Powell aka Nelson
                       I have a lot more information but am in the process of looking for it all  I do know that Roberts father was William W Glover in Christin county Kentucky who was married to a Susan J, but can't find her info, but do know that this William died in Texas in 1910 while living with his daughter who married a Banaster R Terrell

 on: January 07, 2015, 05:43:54 AM 
Started by Maliclavelli - Last post by Maliclavelli
First of all I thank you for having posted your private letter.
If we compare your 67Y with an Italian and with the modal (even though I criticized many times in the past the same concept of a "modal"), we can see that Malagodi has 21 mutations as to the modal and you have 21 mutations too
5Z2Y6   Malagodi Cento (Fe), Italy    
13   24   13   11   11   14   13   12   12   13   13   29   17   9   10   10   11   25   17   19   32   15   15   17   18   10   12   19   23   17   14   17   17   38   38   10   12   12   12   14   11   9   15   16   8   10   10   8   12   10   23   23   17   10   12   12   15   8   22   20   12   11   14   11   11   12   12
5KDKE   R-L51+ Modal   Unknown    
13   24   14   11   11   14   13   12   12   13   13   29   17   9   10   11   11   25   15   19   30   15   15   17   18   11   11   19   23   16   15   18   17   36   37   12   12   12   12   14   11   9   15   16   8   10   10   8   10   10   23   23   16   10   12   12   16   8   22   20   12   11   13   11   11   12   12
14   24   14   10   11   14   13   11   14   12   13   28   17   9   10   11   11   25   15   19   31   15   16   17   17   10   11   19   23   16   15   18   17   35   36   12   12   12   13   12   11   9   16   16   8   10   10   8   10   11   21   23   15   10   12   12   15   8   22   20   12   11   13   11   11   12   12
We may discuss about the quality of the mutations, but that your haplotype were particularly varied probably isn't true. My idea, as it is undisputable that the highest frequency of R-L51 is  in Italy rather than in the Balkans, is that your haplotype from Macedonia very likely descends from the Italian Refugium which could be in the submerged Adriatic too. Of course only a deep SNP test (Big Y, Y Prime, Y Elite, Full Genome) could say something definitive.     

 on: January 07, 2015, 04:23:06 AM 
Started by Maliclavelli - Last post by serdarsabri
Thanks for yor guidance Maliclavelli Rathna Claire Gioiello :) To clarify forum I paste my message below:

I just noticed the L51 section of this forum and I am one of the verified L51 mentioned, f46468 ******. I live in ******, Turkey but my paternal ancestors were immigrants from Greek Macedonia, Kastoria. They came after Turkish-Greek War about 100 years ago.

I bought PF7589 SNP test from FTDNA, waiting for the result. I want to learn something further on L51 geneology,  if you can guide I will appreciate.


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