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 61 
 on: March 06, 2015, 11:46:40 AM 
Started by NewmanAdmin - Last post by Forest Newman
 Paternal Line of Forest P. Newman III (Newman.forest@gmail.net or fpnewman@icloud.net)
 Kit # N-151, haplotype R1b1a2a1, R-P3112

Joseph Newman (b1750 in Va., USA d. 11 May 1815,Patrick Cty, Va, USA )m. Clara Grady(ca.1750-1796) on 10 NOV 1784
  Winston Newman (1790-1885) Patrick County, Va, USA m. Conah Nowlin(1790-1865)
   OR....
  Elam Newman, Winston's Brother, (b. 1777 ) m.Nancy Shelton(1780-1865) Patrick, Virginia, USA
     Joseph Newman (1818/19- 1870) m. Ruth Rogers (1831-1917) Patrick, Virginia, USA
        H.(Hiram) Winston Newman (b1850 d. 1932) m. Eliz. F. Frye( 1846-1907) Patrick, VA and Stokes,NC
           Forest P. Newman(b.1881 d.1965) m. Eddie Glidewell(b.1886) Stokes and Rockingham Ctys , NC
             Forest P. Newman Jr.(1921-1998) m. Marjorie Beemer, Rockingham Cty., NC
                Forest P. Newman III ( 1848- ) m. Sara Lynn Gardner of Richmond Cty, SC

 62 
 on: March 06, 2015, 11:33:47 AM 
Started by Forest Newman - Last post by Forest Newman
 Paternal Line of Forest P. Newman III (Newman.forest@gmail.net or fpnewman@icloud.net)
 Kit # N-151, haplotype R1b1a2a1, R-P3112

Joseph Newman (b1750 in Va., USA d. 11 May 1815,Patrick Cty, Va, USA )m. Clara Grady(ca.1750-1796) on 10 NOV 1784
  Winston Newman (1790-1885) Patrick County, Va, USA m. Conah Nowlin(1790-1865)
   OR....
  Elam Newman, Winston's Brother, (b. 1777 ) m.Nancy Shelton(1780-1865) Patrick, Virginia, USA
     Joseph Newman (1818/19- 1870) m. Ruth Rogers (1831-1917) Patrick, Virginia, USA
        H.(Hiram) Winston Newman (b1850 d. 1932) m. Eliz. F. Frye( 1846-1907) Patrick, VA and Stokes,NC
           Forest P. Newman(b.1881 d.1965) m. Eddie Glidewell(b.1886) Stokes and Rockingham Ctys , NC
             Forest P. Newman Jr.(1921-1998) m. Marjorie Beemer, Rockingham Cty., NC
                Forest P. Newman III ( 1848- ) m. Sara Lynn Gardner of Richmond Cty, SC

 63 
 on: March 05, 2015, 12:11:16 PM 
Started by Dave Pitts - Last post by gmacdonald8

Kit Number 62062
Geoffrey MacDonald
geoffmacdonald@hotmail.com


Joseph M Pitts (born Petitpas, name changed when he emigrated to America), b Dec 21, 1894, Nova Scotia, Canada, d Massachusetts, 1994 m Sarah Bryden

Edmund Maurice Pitts, b Nov 9, 1926, Boston, Suffolk Co MA, d Aug 19, Wells, York Co ME m Alice Begin

 64 
 on: March 04, 2015, 10:37:40 PM 
Started by Jef Treece - Last post by Terry Barton
If you will convert it to either mht or html, you can upload it to one of your WorldFamilies project pages.  Directions for uploading are in the Admin Guide

You can also change the name of the page you choose to use (maybe "Help" or "mtDNA" to help your project members find it.  (and, if you ask, I can change the page url to match the name of the page)

Terry

 65 
 on: March 04, 2015, 09:11:16 PM 
Started by gunslingingardner - Last post by gunslingingardener
Hi,

I apologize for the delay in response.

The truth is I can't prove my line to Sir Osbern Gardynyr. Descendants of George Gardiner of Rhode Island came out as R1b - U106 (I think)...while descendants of Thomas Gardiner of Massachusetts came out as J2....both claiming descent.

A woman who claims descent from Sir Osborn Gardner told me that her male Gardner relatives came out with matches heavy in Switzerland, same as me.

Send me your email address please.


Sir Osborn Gardner was born in 1128 by most accounts in Wallonia, Belgium. He was the 'Personal Protector' of King Baldwin IV (I think) and in 1191 when he was about 63 years old, Gardner killed a Saracen bearing down on King Richard the Lionheart, thus retiring in Lancashire, England, being Lord of the Manor of Horul (now Oral) in Wigan, England.

There is an Osbern's Field there, but no other evidence.

He was a Knight Hospitaller, the Knights of Jerusalem.

 66 
 on: March 04, 2015, 09:03:35 PM 
Started by gunslingingardener - Last post by gunslingingardener
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/9888402/One-million-Brits-descended-from-Romans.html


It seems it is Celtic, from the Alps, but it does go into Italy quite a bit.

I guess my ancestors were either Celts or Romans, enemies or friends!

Several of the Celtic warriors were hired as mercenaries in the Roman cavalry, being the first knights in my opinion, using chainmail and horses.

There was a constable named Roger De Gardino (sounds Italian) circa 1100's who was the father of Sir William de Gardinis, the father of Sir Thomas de Gardinis.

 67 
 on: March 04, 2015, 08:37:01 AM 
Started by lilphoenix - Last post by Abnahi0
L51 and its descendant, L11, is 393=13. Above L51, 393=12 is the modal. Your 393=12 is simply a relatively recent mutation.????

 68 
 on: March 04, 2015, 03:43:58 AM 
Started by Jef Treece - Last post by Jef Treece
I'm a surname project administrator, wondering if there is any good way of posting a graph somewhere. I created the graph using graphviz and can generate a .pdf, jpg, png, gif, etc.

I tried posting it as a picture in MyGroups, but I believe the image was scaled down when I posted it because there does not seem to be any way to view it clearly.

It would be much better if the original resolution is preserved and/or the original file could be attached somewhere.  As far as I can see, that functionality doesn't exist on MyGroups or WF (although it's possible I just don't know the secret sauce).

Anyone have an idea?

Thanks
Jef Treece
Treece Surname Project

 69 
 on: March 03, 2015, 12:47:27 PM 
Started by steve52 - Last post by steve52
Hello,
   My name is Steve Kelly or (echols, Rowland, flippo) LOL.  At this point in my searching, it wouldn't surprise me if I'm my own Grandpaw.

I have a close Y match with William Dennis Echols and also two Flippo gentlemen and a couple of Rowlands.  I would very much like to pursue these and sort out connections.  My male ancestors appear to have been in Virginia in the 1700s and then migrated into Kentucky.  I can find Rowlands and Flippos around my Kellys in the early to mid 1800s, but am having trouble finding any Echols in close proximity at that time.  The civil war years could have been the time frame when Y-DNA mixing happened in this case - lots of men fighting in other areas of the country than their home state.
please contact me if you can help.  Thanks, Steve  steveelaine5251@gmail.com

 70 
 on: March 03, 2015, 12:42:06 PM 
Started by maryr55379 - Last post by Ken Ryan
There are a lot of people that have put their DNA information on the site but have not posted their Lineage.  It would be great if they could show us how they match.

On the Ryan site there is a section for I2a2a Haplogroup and these all seem to have links to someone from the Goochland/Henrico area.  Just for your information these Ryan families also have links to Amelia County.  If you look at the different county changes you will find that many of the people who had records in Goochland, especially at St. James Parish, were actually living in Amelia, Henrico or one of the outlying counties yet belonged to this parish.

In the Ryan research it is a good idea to look at migration paths starting in the 1600's as individuals moved along the James River, north west, and finally ended up in Amelia and close by counties. 

 1800 on...

From that point on it seems like there was a gigantic split in the families.  Some going west to Kentucky, Missouri and north.  Others going south to South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama and Arkansas.

The biggest problem we all seem to face is how to document all this moving around with concrete evidence.  Sherman made a mess of things when he came through the south with his scorched earth policy, burning everything in his path.  Most records were destroyed by him and by later fires.

Anyone researching this family and wanting to know what research has been done so far, please contact me via this board and we can compare notes.
 

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