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 on: August 06, 2015, 04:06:55 PM 
Started by WebMaster - Last post by WebMaster
Welcome to the forum for this Surname Project.  Feel free to post anything that pertains to the surname’s genealogy, DNA research, or to a specific family that is included in the Surname Project.

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 on: August 06, 2015, 04:06:14 PM 
Started by WebMaster - Last post by WebMaster
We invite you to submit your "Pedigree" for this Surname.   Our Surname Project is primarily interested in your Paternal line, as surnames are passed down from father to son, just as the yDNA is passed down. 

If you ARE A MEMBER of this Surname Project at Family Tree DNA, send your pedigree by email to at  The pedigree will then be posted on the Surname Project's Patriarchs Page by or sent to the Project’s Administrator.

Please include the following:
•       Name of project
•       Kit Number
•       Name of person posting pedigree
•       Email address to be posted with pedigree
•       Name, birthdate, birthplace, spouse of Earliest Known Ancestor
•       List each succeeding generation, using only those four items of information (or substitute another item of information if missing an item)

 (If you have more information you would like to share, you may also post a more extended version of your family pedigree on the project website’s Pedigree Forum below)

If you are NOT A MEMBER of this Surname Project at Family Tree DNA, you are welcome to post your pedigree on the Pedigree Forum below.  We hope an interested researcher will see it and contact you to share information.

To post on this Pedigree Forum:
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For a step-by-step guide to using DNA for genealogy, please read DNA the Smart Way

 on: August 05, 2015, 12:11:47 PM 
Started by Adrian Ballard - Last post by Jane Gilbert
Hi Adrian,

I'm looking to find out the same.   A Gilbert man in my project has matched the primary McClendon line.   I'm wondering if a SNP test will help confirm vs. a 67 marker upgrade.

Jane Gilbert

 on: August 05, 2015, 01:16:39 AM 
Started by Susan J. Barretta - Last post by Susan J. Barretta
I have a coupon code, CJS2015, for any order over $99.  I don't know how long it is good for - maybe the month of August.  -- Susan

 on: August 01, 2015, 04:50:59 PM 
Started by burtAdmin - Last post by Lareena Goertz
Here is my pedigree. Want to take the Birt line back further.


1 Ansel R. Birt
Birth:   14 Apr 1826, of NY
Death:   1876, Worth Co, Mo
Burial:   Walker Cem., Worth Co, Mo

Spouse:   Sarah Elizabeth Ragan
Birth:   5 Feb 1837, Blount, Tennessee, United States
Death:   2 Jun 1886, Lone Star, Gentry, Missouri, United States
Father:   Darby H. Ragan  (1808-1875)

1860 Census. Surely this is our Abigail. Attach to her file in familysearch? There isn’t another Abigail?

Marriage:   10 Oct 1851, Buchannan Co. Mo

Children:   Arminta (1873-1926)
   John Ansel (1875-1949)

Other spouses:   Elizabeth Whited

1.1 Arminta Birt
Birth:   20 Jan 1873, Worth Co. MO
Death:   22 Sep 1926, Harrison Co. MO
Burial:   Wesley Chapel Ce, M, Harrison Co. MO

Spouse:   William Henry Smith
Marriage:   20 Jan 1895

Children:   Elizabeth

1.1.1 Elizabeth Smith

1.2 John Ansel Birt
Birth:   9 Sep 1875, Gentry Co. MO
Death:   10 Jul 1949, Guyman, Okla
Burial:   13 Jul 1949, Elmhurst, Guyman, Okla.

Other information from Bessie Birt. Hutchison Kansas & Hazel Davis, Hooker Okla. Birth place is listed on his son's birth certificate (John Elvin Birt)  Age at that time is 35.
DEATH: Birth and death info is from certificate of death
Birth place differs with previous information

Spouse:   Ellen Viola Bainum
Birth:   23 Sep 1878, Arlington, Kan
Death:   7 May 1947, Guyman, Okla
Father:   Josephus Bainum  (1846-1907)
Mother:   Anna Elizabeth Kay (1858-1945)

Birth information from birth certificate of her son John Elvin Birt. also age shown as 32.

Marriage:   20 Sep 1903, home of bride

Children:   Charles Leroy (1904-1976)
   Josephus Ansell (1906-1906)
   Merlyn Levere (1909-1960)
   John Elvin (1911-1956)
   Dannie Dee (1913-1990)

1.2.1 Charles Leroy Birt
Birth:   1 Sep 1904, Kansas
Death:   27 Dec 1976

SSN 441-03-1870

Spouse:   Lola Irene Morford,
Birth:   28 Oct 1914
Death:   8 Apr 1996
Marriage:   15 Nov 1934, Liberal Kansas

Children:   Audrey Louise (1936-1936)
   Lawrence Ray (1938-)
   Billy William Leroy (1946-1966)

1.2.2 Josephus Ansell Birt
Birth:   16 Jan 1906
Death:   5 Apr 1906

1.2.3 Merlyn Levere Birt
Birth:   26 Mar 1909, Kansas
Death:   9 Jun 1960, Hawthorne, Calif.

DEATH: Merlyn died in a helicopter crash near his home in Hawthorne Calif. on Thursday but the exact date did not appear on the news clipping.His SS# appears in Ancestry's California death register. also Date.SS#522091101

Spouse:   Lydia Hill Sanborn
Birth:   31 Jan 1914, Guymon, Oklahoma
Death:   3 May 1977, Hawthorne, Calif.

DEATH: Lydia died as a result of an automobile accident.

Marriage:   4 Jun 1931, Boise City

Children:   Richard Phillip (1932-2002)
   David Devon (1934-)
   John Wesley (1940-)

1.2.4 John Elvin Birt
Birth:   27 Feb 1911, Reno, Arlington, Kan
Death:   18 Apr 1956, Inglewood, Calif.

Marriage Information from marriage certificate in possession of Richard Smith 1 May 1999

Spouse:   Velda Lorene Woolsey
Birth:   27 May 1917, Rolla, Morton, Kansas
Death:   18 Aug 1994, Murray, Salt Lake, Utah
Father:   William Archibald Woolsey  (1892-1964)
Mother:   Lola Sims (1898-1985)
Marriage:   2 Dec 1935, Colorado Springs, Colo

Children:   Janyce Lorraine (1937-1996)
   Girl, living

1.2.5 Dannie Dee Birt
Birth:   16 Aug 1913, Arlington, Kansas
Death:   1 May 1990, Guymon, Okla.
Burial:   Elmhurst Cem, Guymon, Okla.

DEATH: Date of death from Social Security Death Index, also on funeral program. SSN 447-07-8337

The Birt family moved to the Straight area in 1915 where they farmed. Dannie attended the Payne Grade School. Graduated in 1932 from Guymon High School. Attended Panhandle A & M at Goodwell. They moved from the farm in 1939. Dannie was self employed from 1939. Farmed utnil 1943 when he established Dannie Manufacturing. In 1973, he was awarded the Number One Dealer in US and Canada for Behlen Manufacturing Company. Member of the Assembly of God and lover of flying since age 13.

Preceeded in death by one son, Gary Birt and Four brothers Survived by (among others) 4 great grandchildren, and 3 nephews and two nieces.

Funeral at the Panhandle Bible Center. Rev. Ted Barker, Pastor. Rev. Winston Curtis of First Baptist Church of Texhoma, officiating. Interred in the Elmhurst Cemetery.

Spouse:   Elva Ella Reed
Birth:   1917
Father:   Richard Reed
Mother:   Blance

Other Grandchildren:  Mrs. Tommy (Cindy) Hays of Elgin, Tex.
Mr. & Mrs. Mike (Terri) Branson
Caleb and Cassie of Guymon
Lesa Anderson

Marriage:   15 Mar 1937, Hogoton, Kansas

Children:   Glenda Gay (1939-)
   Gary Gail (1941-1989)
   Sharon Kay (1917-)


Information mostly from Maxine Short, 750 West Wickersham, Webb City, Missouri 64870. she cites  sources from family records of Mary Waddilove, Blythedale, Mo.& M. Short.  Oabituaries of S.C. Birt Baker, Robert Birt,  Harvey Birt and Arminta Birt Smith.  Other information from Bessie Birt. Hutchison Kansas & Hazel Davis, Hooker Okla.
See information on Elizabeth Ragan on zip disc.


   Blance   parent of spouse of 1.2.5
   Ellen Viola   spouse of 1.2
   Josephus   parent of spouse of 1.2
   Ansel R.   1
   Arminta   1.1
   Audrey Louise   child of 1.2.1
   Charlene RaElle   child of 1.2.4
   Charles Leroy   1.2.1
   Dannie Dee   1.2.5
   David Devon   child of 1.2.3
   Gary Gail   child of 1.2.5
   Glenda Gay   child of 1.2.5
   Janyce Lorraine   child of 1.2.4
   John Ansel   1.2
   John Elvin   1.2.4
   John Wesley   child of 1.2.3
   Josephus Ansell   1.2.2
   Lawrence Ray   child of 1.2.1
   Merlyn Levere   1.2.3
   Richard Phillip   child of 1.2.3
   Sharon Kay   child of 1.2.5
   Billy William Leroy   child of 1.2.1
   Anna Elizabeth   parent of spouse of 1.2
   Lola Irene   spouse of 1.2.1
   Darby H.   parent of spouse of 1
   Sarah Elizabeth   spouse of 1
   Elva Ella   spouse of 1.2.5
   Richard   parent of spouse of 1.2.5
   Lydia Hill   spouse of 1.2.3
   Lola   parent of spouse of 1.2.4
   Elizabeth   1.1.1
   William Henry   spouse of 1.1
   Velda Lorene   spouse of 1.2.4
   William Archibald   parent of spouse of 1.2.4

 on: July 31, 2015, 01:38:27 PM 
Started by HarrisonHart - Last post by HarrisonHart
There doesn't seem to be a group over at ftdna for Harrisons, is that correct or incorrect?  My family are Harrisons but we got no matches on dads Y67 (at any level/any distance) nor does dad match any harrisons with Autosomal DNA.  He does have 14 out of 700+ matches, that list Harrison as one of their ancestral names, but these matches are 5th-remote.  Is this to be expected?  I understand it can mean a NPE but could it simply mean nobody, at all, descendant from my dads Harrison line, has tested?

 on: July 30, 2015, 11:37:05 AM 
Started by meadowsAdmin - Last post by Warren Pearce

We share Joel Meador. Here is my linkage to him: My Grandmother on Mom’s (Lucille Henbest) side was JOANNA MEADOR. She was born on 3 December 1867 in Barry County Missouri and died on 6 April 1949 in Fayetteville Arkansas. Joanna’s husband was Alfred HENBEST. Joanna’s father was George Henry Meador (b 1 September 1838, d 8 Feb 1904 - Lucy Ann Booth.

Here is the data I have on Joanna’s Meador lineage.:
George Henry Meador (b 1 September 1838, d 8 Feb 1904 - Lucy Ann Booth
Nathaniel Meador (b 19 September 1818, d 28 May 1862) - Sarah Turner and
   Katherine Perdue
Eli Meador (b 1787, d 1846) - Sarah (Sarah) Turner
Isham Meador (b 20 March 1762, d 2 March 1849) - Biddy Bradshaw and Martha Craighead.
Joel Meador (b 1728, d 1789) - Frances, Agnes, and Susannah Clark.
Jonas Meador ( b 1700) - Frances
John Meader
Thomas Meader, Jr.
Thomas Meader, Sr.

I can be reached at     What is your E-mail address?     

I’ll gladly share all my Meador, Henbest, and Pearce data.

 on: July 28, 2015, 09:07:12 PM 
Started by Jtel09 - Last post by Jtel09
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 on: July 27, 2015, 06:04:53 PM 
Started by rbowers - Last post by Jett Hanna
I believe you are understanding correctly. There are a number of possible reasons why the different haplotypes are listed. First, there may be adoptions or what I'll call unusual parentage events involved. The farther back these may have occurred, the more likely they are to produce many Hanna(h)(y)s with different haplotypes. We will may never know with certainty which genetic line is tied to Sorbie, but it may become clear there is a main line most likely to be connected. Genetic testing of Hannays in Scotland could be very helpful in sorting this out.

I am one of the I2 Hannas, my ancestor is Robert Hanna, who I can document was born in Virginia in 1744, died 1821. A book about him indicates his grandfather came from County Down. He, too, is shown in Hanna of Castle Sorbie, with a tree that appears to go back to Odo Hannay. There are two major R lines in the project, and one is only very, very distantly related to the other. They cannot have had a common ancestor who owned the castle. There are still other single entries in the project who also cannot be closely enough relate to other haplotypes in the project for all to have been related to owners of Sorbie.

The Hanna of Castle Sorbie book is not well documented. I believe it is based in part on Stewart Francis's book on the Hannays, which is more scholarly and refers to documents such as deeds, court cases and estates.  I am in the process of analyzing the records in that  book to see to what extent they support Hanna of Castle Sorbie. I have found many errors and misconstructions in Hanna of Castle Sorbie. To date, I believe that Francis's book does not support one of the main parts of the Hanna of Castle Sorbie tree.

I have written a brief analysis of the DNA evidence to date I'd be happy to provide if  you give me your email address. It is also available on the Facebook page for Clan Hannay.

 on: July 27, 2015, 05:51:56 PM 
Started by hamptonAdmin - Last post by jhampton9
William Hiram Hampton b. 1 Jul 1834 in Decatur County, TN, USA  d. 13 Feb 1916 in Bernie, Stoddard, Missouri, USA

Hiram Grant Hampton b. 28 Dec 1863 in Henderson County, TN, USA   d. 8 May 1949 in Malden, Dunklin, Missouri, USA

Floyd Napolean Hampton  b. 27 Jan 1890 in Malden, Dunklin, Missouri, USA   d. 24 Jun 1913 in Cotton Hill Township, Dunklin, Missouri, USA

Edward Floyd Hampton  b. 24 Dec 1911 in Malden, Dunklin, Missouri, USA   d. 26 Feb 1982 in Des Moines, Polk, Iowa, USA

Edward Floyd Hampton Jr.  b. 4 Jan 1944 in Des Moines, Polk, Iowa, USA  

A DNA test was done by my father Edward Hampton Jr. through   Came back I2b1 Haplogroup.  Would love to find out who William's father was.  I can be contacted at hamptons dot email at gmail dot com.

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