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 on: May 30, 2016, 12:50:12 PM 
Started by LaurieD - Last post by ErickaHall
I got my 23 and me reports back and I am in the Maternal Haplogroup J2a1a1b.  I also had my father do the test.  My mother died in 1997 and she had no sisters. Her mother died in 86 and all of her sisters are now dead too.  That's as far back as I can go really; I know my great-grandmother's name but not her maiden name, she died in the early 80's.  I have some pictures of my great-grandmother.  She's fair complected, blue eyes as I remember even though the photos are black and white.  From what I remember, that side of the family is from northern Europe/Scandinavia.  Maternal lines are so hard to trace with maiden names and so on.  It doesn't help that the line ends with me, I have no daughters, I was an only child, my mom had a brother but no sisters, my grandmother's sisters all had boys!     

 on: May 29, 2016, 12:33:50 PM 
Started by Lori Holt-Galvin - Last post by Lori Holt-Galvin
I would like to start a discussion about Holt related research here.

 on: May 25, 2016, 02:12:05 PM 
Started by Kathleen Shaw Decker - Last post by shawjerry
James Shaw, b. c. 1784, North Carolina, m. Nancy J. Holt
William Shaw, b. c. 1820, North Carolina, m. Sally Sharp Morgan
James W. Shaw, b. 1841, York, Clarke, Illinois, m. Eliza (Lydia) Crisher
Charles M. Shaw, b. 1878, Terre Haute, Vigo, Indiana, m. Francis (Fannie) Forbeck
Frederick W. Shaw, b. 1908, Enid, Garfield, Oklahoma, m. Rose Evelyn Miller
Jerry C. Shaw, b. 1937, Chicago, Cook, Illinois, m. Jane M. Slattery
Kit Number: 494782
Halogroup: R-M269

 on: May 24, 2016, 04:58:48 PM 
Started by PrattAdmin - Last post by Eddy Pratt
Henry Pratt (b. ca1760  d. after 1819 Greene Co., TN)
Oliver Pratt (b. ca1786 Culpeper Co., VA  d. 1832 Greene Co. TN) m. Mary Fulks
Isaac Thompson Pratt (b. 1827 Washington Co., VA  d. 1909) m. Nancy E. Pritchett
William Harrison Campbell Pratt (b. 1876 Smyth Co., VA d. 1944)
Donald Ray Pratt (b. 1921 VA d. 1999)
Donald Gary Pratt (b. 1951) 479544

 on: May 24, 2016, 02:38:08 PM 
Started by WebMaster - Last post by WebMaster
We invite you to submit your "Pedigree" for this Surname.   Our Surname Project is primarily interested in your Paternal line, as surnames are passed down from father to son, just as the yDNA is passed down.  

If you ARE A MEMBER of this Surname Project at Family Tree DNA, send your pedigree by email to at  The pedigree will then be posted on the Surname Project's Patriarchs Page by or sent to the Project’s Administrator.

Please include the following:
•       Name of project
•       Kit Number
•       Name of person posting pedigree
•       Email address to be posted with pedigree
•       Name, birthdate, birthplace, spouse of Earliest Known Ancestor
•       List each succeeding generation, using only those four items of information (or substitute another item of information if missing an item)

 (If you have more information you would like to share, you may also post a more extended version of your family pedigree on the project website’s Pedigree Forum below)

If you are NOT A MEMBER of this Surname Project at Family Tree DNA, you are welcome to post your pedigree on the Pedigree Forum below.  We hope an interested researcher will see it and contact you to share information.

To post on this Pedigree Forum:
1.  Register and log in at
(How do I register to post a pedigree? Click here
(I've already registered. How do I log in? Click here
2.  When you have logged in, scroll to the last posting on this forum, click "reply" and post your pedigree.
a.  Please do not include names for anyone born after 1910, to protect privacy.
b.  If you have questions or are unable to post your pedigree on this forum, please contact

For a step-by-step guide to using DNA for genealogy, please read DNA the Smart Way

 on: May 24, 2016, 02:36:49 PM 
Started by WebMaster - Last post by WebMaster
Welcome to the forum for this Surname Project.  Feel free to post anything that pertains to the surname’s genealogy, DNA research, or to a specific family that is included in the Surname Project.

--How do I register to post on the forum? Click here
--I've already registered. How do I log in? Click here

1.  Log in
2.  Scroll to the last posting on the thread (topic) of interest
3.  Click "reply" to post your comment.

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2.  Click the "Back" button to go back one screen
3.  Click on "New Topic".
4.  Type in your Subject (be sure to relate subject to your topic)
5.  Add your comment or question.  (Keep your postings related to genealogy and DNA testing, use good manners and clean language, and be polite.)
6.  Click "Preview" and when you are satisfied, click "Save"
7.  Click the "Notify" button at the bottom of the page if you want email notification of replies to your thread

1.  Go "Back" one page
2.  Click the link for Family Pedigrees
3.  Follow instructions for submitting your pedigree.

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---Autosomal (Family Finder)
---Newby Questions

 on: May 23, 2016, 06:01:06 PM 
Started by Arthur C. Barker - Last post by Arthur C. Barker
After discussing this matter with Suzanne, I would like to modify some of the previous points I made with regard to Group-assisted testing.

To upgrade a 12-marker Kit to 25 markers costs $49.00.  Therefore, half of that in a 50% match would be about $25.00.  I still believe the Project derives the greatest value from upgrading the 12-marker Kits so that the WFN Tool can assign them to a Lineage if possible and discovering the SNP sequence for Members.  And although I allowed for the possibility that other testing could be proposed, the original idea strikes me as being unfair to all the Members and limiting testing possibilities.  Therefore, instead of focusing on any specific test, we will open Group-assisted testing to all Members by simply offering a blanket $25.00 grant for any yDNA test they choose to take at any time, including during periodic Sales.  Among other things, this will allow Members to upgrade Kits by more than one step, say from 12 to 37 markers, upgrade Kits that are already at a higher level, and do any kind of SNP testing, including ordering the powerful Next Generation Sequencing test Big Y.

Only yDNA testing will be included since that is the purpose of our Project and the Kit proposed must have a Barker surname associated with it or some derivative of that name.  For these purposes, Barger will be considered one of those derivatives.  As before, all Members related to Suzanne or me will be excluded from receiving a grant to avoid any conflict of interest.

As before, if you wish to apply for a grant, contact either Suzanne or me.  Instead of approving it, as I previously mentioned, we will use the system employed by the Roman Tribunes during the days of the Republic.  Each administrator will hold an absolute veto.  Unless a proposal is vetoed by one of the administrators, it will be accepted.

Once a proposal has been accepted, the Member will contribute their share of the cost of a test to the Project's General Fund and send Suzanne or me written authorization to order a specific test, which is a requirement by Family Tree DNA Groups and will be attached to the Member's file.  The cost of the test will be invoiced to the Project and will be paid by Suzanne or me.

I want to again thank all the Members who have generously contributed to our Project's General Fund.  If you would like to make a contribution, please visit this website page:

I will post an announcement on this thread when the Project has reached a General Fund balance of $300.00 and proposals can be made.

 on: May 22, 2016, 11:18:42 AM 
Started by Mellanie - Last post by Eric Peterson
did you ever get this worked out.  I have same problems.  I do not have a Pedigree on one do I use this forum.  I'm lost

 on: May 22, 2016, 11:08:50 AM 
Started by mbare - Last post by mbare
I would like to correspond with kit N47205 with the ancestor of Grover Cleveland Baer, b.c. 1893, Spring TWP, PA

His kit and kit 391337' are 2C4R (2nd cousin 4 times removed).  Line of Descent to common ancestor is...
Grover Cleveland Bare b. 1886
Henry Harrison Boyd Bare b. 1846
Henry Harrison Bare b. 1815
Owen C. Bare b. 1782

Our branch descends from Grover Cleveland's older brother, William Jacob Bare b. 1809.

Please reply in this forum or contact me at mbare (at) barefamily (dot) org.  Looking forward to hearing from you.

 on: May 21, 2016, 11:42:18 PM 
Started by William Thomas Farrar, III - Last post by gaylefarrow
Kit #341790
Farrow Family Pedigree
Stephen Farrow b. 21 Dec. 1802 Culpeper Co., VA m. Mary Francis Hutchinson d. 24 Nov. 1856 Calhoun, IL
 William B. Farrow b. 1825 VA m. Rachael Dean d. 30 Jan. 1891 Greene, IL
  John H. L. Farrow b. 31 Mar 1860 Greene, IL m. Hellen Walter d. 3 Jul 1934 St. Louis, MO
   William Grant Farrow b. 5 Mar 1898 Greene, IL m. Dorothy Sackett d. 10 April 1941 Los Angeles, CA
    William Lee Farrow b. 9 Mar 1931 Los Angeles, CA m. Virginia Weimer
      William Scott Farrow b. 14 April 1955 Hollywood, CA m. Gayle Farrow

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