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 on: November 26, 2016, 04:37:45 PM 
Started by Johnjtraynor - Last post by Johnjtraynor
My name is John Traynor. 

I recently finished my Big Y test from FTDNA and thought I would share some results you may all be interested in.

I tested my Y-DNA.   Y-DNA is "male" DNA which only men have.  They inherited it from their father's father's father's father's .... father.  You get the picture. 

Genetic DNA uses a lot of genetic codes called STRs and SNPs to measure relationships between people.   If you share many genetic codes, you are more closely related.  If you share few, you are less closely related.  By testing the Y-DNA of many people, and matching up their last names with their Y-DNA, we can begin to figure out who is more closely related to whom. 

My DNA test showed me to be part of a branch called FGC6559.  I am not part of the genetic branch called the "Niall of the Nine Hostages" DNA or the "Three Collas" DNA.

Rather I am part of a group of people with the marker FGC6559  which includes Kelleys and Maddens. 

Initial work ties this group to an ancient Irish Kingdom called the Ui Maine, pronounced "Hy Many" to English speakers.  The Ui Maine, led by Maine Mor, founded a kingdom in Connaught near southern Roscommon in the fourth century AD. 

This common ancestor, Maine Mor, had descendants of many names including Kelly Madden and Tr*n*r.  These surnames came later. 

Our family split off from the Kelly's and the Maddens a long time ago.   Perhaps 500 AD.  At this point, DNA history can't help us too much except to say that we haven't been the same DNA as Kelly's or Maddens since the fall of the Roman Empire.  All we know is that our ancestor, a branch of the ruling Ui Maine family, for some reason in pre history chose to leave Ui Maine lands in Connaught and traveled up to the area most of us call home: the kingdom of Airgialla, in present day Monaghan in Ulster.   This is where the oldest references to our family name are found. 

However, this is where legend comes in.  Around 450 -500 AD a man called Aedh MacCairthinn became a follower of Saint Patrick, and ultimately his most dedicated disciple.   Strong enough to carry Saint Patrick on his back across rivers when Patrick was tired, he became known as Saint Patrick's "strong man" or tréanfhear.  Ultimately, Patrick told Mac Cairthinn, or Macartan as we know him now, to start a monastery at Clogher, and Macartan became the first bishop of Clogher. 

In these days, the rules of celibacy were still being debated.  Many priests and bishops were married.   Macartan may well have been married.   Some stories even tell us at Macartan was married when he became a follower of Patrick's. 

All we know now is that, of all three  Tr*n*rs tested in Big Y , none of whom know eachother, all three have tested to this Ui Maine DNA line; and something made us leave Ui Maine and brought the Tr*n*rs to southern Ulster in  antiquity, perhaps 500AD. And legend says we have always been erenachs, guardians of church lands.   

Are we the descendants of that Aedh Mac Cairthinn (Saint Macartan) Tréanfhear?

I will leave it up to you.

 on: November 26, 2016, 02:20:11 PM 
Started by Tim McClure - Last post by mcclurera
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 on: November 24, 2016, 04:45:55 AM 
Started by Arthur C. Barker - Last post by Arthur C. Barker
A 79th SNP Pack has just been released by Family Tree DNA.  This is another advanced SNP Pack, called I1-Z140.  As with prior new packs, it sells for an introductory rate of $99.00.

However, all of our Kit holders who are in the I1 branch have not tested or confirmed beyond the early I-M253 SNP, which YFull estimates arose about 27,500 years ago, with the exception of one Big Y tester who does not need any SNP Packs.  Therefore, this SNP Pack has no present utility for any of our Members.

 on: November 23, 2016, 08:50:21 PM 
Started by Zena McCarty Paice - Last post by Zena McCarty Paice
Hi Sheila,

You're right, the forum hasn't been used much as people usually email us directly. but it can be used like this, to ask questions or add information.

I did respond to your email on 11/5/2016 thanking you. Did you not receive that response? If you didn't see it, check your spam folder, perhaps it went there? I can forward it to you again if you'd like to see it.

Your pedigree is posted on the McCarthy Surname DNA Project Patriarch's Page here at WorldFamilies. After you sign into WorldFamilies, in your Favorite Projects section (left side panel - bottom) click on McCarthy. When that page opens, look at the top for Patriarch's Page. Click on that. Your pedigree is posted under the group "R-L21 B3". You will see your name and email in bold black to your Patriarch's (Eugene/Owen McCarthy's) name. Your kit numbers are further down. Remember that no individual is published on this site if they were born after 1910, but the kit number for the test taker is listed by their first ancestor born before 1910.

If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to email me directly at



 on: November 23, 2016, 08:33:57 PM 
Started by Zena McCarty Paice - Last post by spmccarthy
What is this forum used for?  I send my pedigree info and I haven't heard anything back.  And it looks like no one else uses this forum either.


 on: November 23, 2016, 04:01:06 AM 
Started by Arthur C. Barker - Last post by Arthur C. Barker
Family Tree DNA has released a 78th SNP Pack.  This one is for Kits in yDNA Haplogroup G and is called G-L497.  It is priced at the standard introductory rate of $99.00.

There is only one Member of our Project whose Kit is in yDNA Haplogroup G and it has a confirmed ending SNP at this point of G-M201, which is the original SNP for that Haplogroup.  Therefore, this advanced SNP Pack would not be appropriate.  Instead, the G SNP Pack would be the one to order to conduct SNP testing if Big Y is not chosen.

 on: November 23, 2016, 12:40:45 AM 
Started by john r benson - Last post by john r benson
hello is anybody out there researching bensons in America? and bengtsson's from Sweden? still trying to find other folks with the family name and maybe a link to other family members.
my bensons : bengtssons from ostergotland  Sweden to America in 1875.

 on: November 21, 2016, 02:20:16 PM 
Started by Tim McClure - Last post by mcclurera
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 on: November 19, 2016, 02:19:24 PM 
Started by Ronnie Tatum - Last post by Cgaziano
o   Nathaniel Tatum I b 1599 England d aft 27 Jan 1675/6 m Ann (perhaps Underwood)
o   Nathaniel Tatum II b abt 1635 VA d bef 10 Nov 1719 VA m Marie Robertson
o   Edward Tatum b abt 1679 VA d bef 16 May 1739 VA m Rebecca____
o   Nathaniel Tatum Sr. b abt 1705 VA d bef 9 Nov 1750 NC m Elizabeth (perhaps Hawthorn)
o   Edward Tatum b abt 1726 VA d bef 28 Dec 1810 SC m Martha (probably Bynum)
o   John Tatum b abt 1758 NC d bef Nov 1824 SC m Unknown (NOT Mary Wright, who m a different John Tatum who was b abt 1762 VA d 1824 TN.  These 2 men are often confused.)
o   Sarah Tatum b abt 1794 SC d bef 1874 TX m Carter Cannon
o   Martha Cannon b abt 1817 SC d bef 1874 TX m John S. Barnes
o   Martha F. Barnes b abt 1848 TX d bef 1874 TX m James Whitten Beall
o  Laura Josephine Beall b 1870 TX d 1958 TX m Louis David Smith

 on: November 17, 2016, 04:52:02 PM 
Started by gebhartAdmin - Last post by mary calder
Earl Gebhart was the water works superintendent in Middle town, Ohio
Daughter Amy May Gebhart married William Calder about 1937 in Middle town, Ohio.
son William Earl Calder born September 13 ,1938 Middle town, OH
son Stuart Calder born about 1941 Middle town OH
Middletown is in Butler Co,
any information is appreciated

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