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 on: June 30, 2015, 06:00:00 PM 
Started by mikechilds54 - Last post by mikechilds54
I am new on the Forum, and perhaps I do not even know what I don't know.  So be patient with me please, and I would appreciate any help.

On the Childs Y-DNA Chart, I match under Haplogroup I Linage I.  I notice that several under Haplogroup I Linage I list Walter Chiles as their oldest known ancestor.  Across the top line of that grouping on the chart is listed DNA numbers.  I assume that is, as best determined so far, the probable Y-DNA numbers of the Patriarch of Haplogroup I Linage I.  Is that correct?  Is that probably Walter Chiles, or is that assuming far too much?

I do not want to misuse this information, or assume too much from it.  I would appreciate any advice or information.

Thank you very much.

 mikechilds54 AT ATT.net

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 on: June 29, 2015, 08:57:59 PM 
Started by Kevan Crawford - Last post by argusy
You have to wait a while.
I submitted mine more than two years ago.
It's still not there
-Graham

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 on: June 29, 2015, 08:48:58 PM 
Started by argusy - Last post by argusy
I've traced my family back to a Christopher Crawforth circa 1525 in Lincolnshire. I've Googled "Crawforth", but all responses end up on a "Crawford" description, which is of Scots origin ("Crawforth"  is replaced by "Crawford" on several of the heraldry/name sites, but exactly the same description for both names). 
 
Does anyone know if the names Crawforth (or Crawforthe) have a different meaning from the Scots versions?  The name seems to predate the migration of Crawford families out of Scotland in the 17th century.

Durham, Yorkshire and Northumberland appear to be the same - there are a lot of Crawforths in the late 16th/early 17th century, becoming Crawford by the 18th, though there's some research that indicates Crauford/Crawford/Crawfurd families drifted down from Scotland to Northumberland.

Now here's an idea - maybe Crawforth families fled to Scotland in the 10th century, fleeing invaders. Demographics could support that, due to the huge number of Crawforths that existed in the 16th century in the above four English counties, compared to the Crawford population in the whole of Scotland, let alone Lanarkshire/Renfrewshire. Population flow north instead of south?

Could the name be referring to crows near an English creek instead?

It's just a thought...... (yeah, I know, go back to my corner.....)

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 on: June 29, 2015, 06:39:53 PM 
Started by Kevan Crawford - Last post by Sharon23
Could someone please add this to the Patriarch page.  I have tried to do it myself, always a dead link.  I've contacted 3 different people to no avail.  It seems you used to transfer them from here...has that practice stopped?

Thanks,

Sharon




Kit # 413803

James Crawford, abt. 1700 Ulster Plantation, Ireland - m. Mary Wilkin
Joseph Crawford, 1734 in Little Britain, New York - m. Catrina Nelson
Joseph Crawford, 1761 in Rhinebeck, New York - m. Margaret Shankland
William Crawford, 1800 in New York State - m. Laura ?
James Crawford, 1835 Delaware County, New York - m. Eliza Louise Robinson
George Brinton Crawford, 1868 New York State - m. Lucy M. Hess
Fred Brinton Crawford, 1892 in Kelsey, NY - m. Lula Mae Lindsley

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 on: June 29, 2015, 11:06:54 AM 
Started by Christopher Child - Last post by mikechilds54
My pedigree:

Walter Chiles b. 1608  d. 1653
Walter Chiles, Jr.  b. @ 1630    d.  1671
Henry Chiles  b. 1671   d.  1719
James Chiles b. 1702  d. 1784
Harry Chiles  b. 1752  d. 1799
Nimrod Chiles  b. @ 1773  d. 1807
Nimrod S. Chiles b. 1805 d. 1860
John R. Childs  b. 1832  d. 1871
Henry Childs  b. 1858  d. 1922
Calvin Arthur Childs  b. 1886 d. 1957
David Childs b. 1922 d. 1997
Michael F. Childs  b. 1954


About the link of Nimrod Chiles of Abbeville, SC, to his father Harry Childs / Chiles, and his grandfather Rev. James Chiles, who was the son of Henry Chiles.  The following is how this link was established and verified through a combination of paper records and DNA tests.

Nimrod Chiles was listed as a head of household for the first time in the 1800 Census of Abbeville County, SC.  He was listed as between ages 26-44; therefore, Nimrod was born sometime between 1756 and 1774.   He and Elizabeth had 3 children under 10 years of age.in 1800, and would have 2 more by 1805.  That probably indicates that he was closer to 26 than 44 years old.

Nimrod was living in Abbeville before 1788 because he was a witness on a property deed that year.  I first thought that meant that Nimrod had to be 21 years of age by 1788, but it does not.  Law allowed, and it was a common practice, for minors 14 years old and up to sign as a witness on a property deed.   In 1788, Nimrod only had to be 14 years or older.  So this does not change what we learned from the 1800 census about his date of birth.  However, it does establish that he was living in Abbeville County in the 1780’s.

He continued living in Abbeville County in the 1790’s because he appeared on legal documents in that decade.  He inventoried estates and was a witness and executor of wills in the 1790’s.  

Since he was not a head of household in 1790, though living in Abbeville County, he likely was still living in the home of his parents.  It is very likely that one of the Chiles / Childs listed as head of household in the 1790 census of Abbeville County was Nimrod’s father (or widowed mother).

There were 10 Chiles / Childs heads of household in the Abbeville County 1790 census:  John Childes, Harry Childs, James Chiles, John Chiles, Jonathan Chiles, William Chiles, Henry Chiles, Jeston Chiles, John Chiles, and Nathan Chiles.  It seems quite probable to me that one of those was father of Nimrod Chiles.  One can eliminate all but Harry Childs by reading their wills, the census records, and other legal documents.  Most of this can be done by reading the various wills in Abstracts of Old Ninety-Six and Abbeville District Will and Bonds, or checking their ages.  The three John Childs / Childs, Jonathan Chiles, and William Chiles all had wills listing their children in the abstracts book.  Henry Chiles had no son the right age in the 1790 census. Jeston and James were both too young to be Nimrod’s father.  By process of elimination, Harry Childs was the likely suspect to be the father of Nimrod.  

Harry was the only one of these possibilities whose children we do not know.  Nor do we know his wife’s name.  But we do know some things about him.  Not only was he the right age to be Nimrod’s father, but in the 1790 census Harry had a son over 18 years of age in his household.  (Children and wives were not named in the census, but put in age categories.)  Including Harry, there were two free white males over age 18 in his household in 1790.  Harry apparently died before 1800, as he was not in the 1800 census.

All this is circumstantial evidence, true enough.  But there is no evidence for anyone else, and I find it convincing.

These conclusions are verified by the DNA evidence.    I took the ancestry.com DNA test.  It is an autosomal DNA test which looks at DNA from both male and female ancestors.  I had dozens of DNA matches that linked me to people descended from Henry Chiles, who would be Harry Chiles’ grandfather.  Henry Chiles had eleven children, all of whom would have passed on his DNA.

But one of his children was the Rev. James M. Chiles, the father of Harry Chiles.  James Chiles and his wife Elizabeth Durrett were parents of three children:  Elizabeth, Harry, and James.  Ancestry.com DNA matched me with a high probability as the cousin of a lady whose family is descended from Rev. James M. Chiles’ daughter Elizabeth.  Her DNA matches many of Elizabeth’s descendants.  The fact that my DNA matches her DNA makes it likely that our Childs ancestors are in that same family line.  

I also had more than a dozen DNA matches with Durrett descendants.  There is no other Durrett DNA in our family tree, except through Elizabeth Durrett, the wife of Rev. James Chiles and the mother of Harry Chiles.  

In addition, my DNA matches with very high or high probablility descendants of the Goodloe family.  The mother of Elizabeth Durrett was a Goodloe, and there are no other known Goodloe or Durrett family members in my linage.

The DNA test results, along with the census records, give strong evidence that we and our ancestor Nimrod Chiles are descended from Rev. James Chiles through one of his sons.  And Harry is the only son that could be because the other son is too young.  
I also took the Familytree.com Y-DNA test at the 37 marker level.  It also confirms that I, and therefore Nimrod Chiles of Abbeville, SC, are descendants of Walter Chiles.

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 on: June 28, 2015, 10:26:37 PM 
Started by WebMaster - Last post by SUZACOUP123
HI ... LOOKING FOR OTHER PEARSON RELATIVES POSSIBLES TO LINK TO DAVID W PEARSON. FAMILY HAS TRIED TO FIND HIS ACTUAL BIRTH YEAR AND RELATIVES. OUR CONFUSION IS ALSO FROM A COL. DAVID W. PEARSON THAT A DOCUMENT DATED 30 DEC 1825 OF WHERE 50 ACRES WAS DIVIDED BETWEEN HIM AND THOMAS GRIFFIS IN ORANGEBURGH, SC. IF THE COLONEL DAVID W PEARSON AND MY GGGG-GRANDFATHER DAVID W PEARSON ARE ONE OF THE SAME? NO DEFINITE PROOF ON MY END HAS BEEN FOUND. ANY ANSWERS OR QUESTIONS PLEASE EMAIL ME SUZACOUP123@GMAIL.COM THANK YOU SUZANNE
NOTE: FAMILY WILL BE HAVING A YDNA TESTING DONE

FAMILY LINE -

DAVID W PEARSON  B- ???? -  D- MAR 12 1836 ORANGEBURGH, SC (SHERIFF OF ORANGEBURGH 1828- 1831) M- HOPE LORD JONES B- APR 12 1798 SC D- NOV 3 1847 GA

   DONALD BRUCE PEARSON B- AUG 15 1824 ORANGEBURG CO, SC D- APR 4 1883 GA
 M- CATHERINE ANN FUDGE B- DEC 5 1822 GA D- FEB 19 1857 GA

   DAVID AUGUSTUS PEARSON B- SEP 2 1846 HOUSTON CO, GA D- OCT 2 1922 POLK CO, FL
   M- HANNAH ROSETTA QUEEN B- JAN 28 1853 JACKSON CO, NC D- APR 4 1940 POLK CO, FL

   JESSE RAULERSON PEARSON B- JUL 31 1885 LAKE CO FL D- AUG 31 1967 AUBURNDALE, POLK CO, FL    M- ROSA BENCY DEWITT B- JAN 25 AUBURNDALE, POLK CO, FL D- DEC 10 1969 AUBURNDALE, POLK CO, FL

  MY GRANDFATHER B- MAR 26 1918 POLK CO FL

   

 7 
 on: June 27, 2015, 10:14:51 AM 
Started by T0pcat - Last post by T0pcat
The last post on here is in 2013 and that was from admin! Is there another Curry/Currie forum I should be using?

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 on: June 26, 2015, 11:26:24 PM 
Started by Susan J. Barretta - Last post by Susan J. Barretta
It doesn't look like much has changed, but I completely overhauled the code base for the Patriarchs page. It will be a lot easier for me to maintain now. A pedigree for Kit # 11280 has been added.

If you have your pedigree posted there, please check and make sure I didn't mangle it.

If you would like your Collins pedigree published there, email me at collinsdna@pobox.com or add a reply to this thread
http://www.worldfamilies.net/forum/?topic=4524

and I'll get it there.

The Patriarchs page is for bare bones pedigrees. If you have a more extensive Collins lineage you'd like to publish on the project's website on Rootsweb, or even an extensive biography, let me know.  I am working on getting two genealogies in the project out there now.

http://tinyurl.com/CollinsGenealogy

-- Susan

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 on: June 26, 2015, 10:13:48 AM 
Started by John Chris Holman - Last post by Arminda
John,
I too have visited Quicksburg and Forestville.  I took a few pictures, but would like to see yours. It is a beautiful area of Virginia.  Could you send them to Mynda@satx.rr.com?  Thanks, Mynda Holman McGuire

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 on: June 25, 2015, 09:34:13 PM 
Started by melaniepatton - Last post by melaniepatton
My maiden name is Patton.  I tested my brother's dna and my 1st cousin on my father's side on FTDNA.  At 37 markers, none of their Y-DNA matches came back as Pattons; they both matched Cain/Kane/Caine kits.

Through further dna testing, I have confirmed the following:

1) Them to their fathers, Gerald K. Patton and David H. Patton
2) Their fathers to their grandfather, Albert Homer Patton b) 1871 IL m) Alice Marticia Moore
3) Their grandfather to their great-grandfather, David Henderson Patton b) 1843 MO m) Martha Jane Ensminger
4) Their g-grandfather to their gg-grandfather, George Washington Patton b) 1819 OH m) Nancy Henderson
5) Their gg-grandfather to their ggg-grandfather, Matthew Patton b) 1780 VA m) M. Isabella Cockburn

I believe I have found Matthew's father to be John Patton b) 1747 VA m) Mary "Polly" Rodgers.  Is there an "easy" way to find living descendants of this John Patton so I can test my brother's dna against theirs to prove back one more generation?  This John Patton lived in Brock's Gap, VA, with two Cain neighbors, so I'm thinking this is where SOMETHING happened and either a Patton was raised as a Cain or a Cain was raised as a Patton.  I SO want to unearth the truth, if it is possible.

Thank you for your consideration.

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