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 on: Today at 07:01:46 AM 
Started by Maliclavelli - Last post by Maliclavelli
smal publishes this interesting post on Anthrogenica:
Today, 09:05 AM #28  smal Posts 45
                        At the moment we have only a single BigY result (271988, Goldschlager) from L584+ branch. Fortunately, there is possibility to compare its with Assyrian 13750 data from Rootsi at al. 2013.
        Level Z2103/Z2105
        1) positive for both 13750 Assyrian and 271988 Goldschlager
        Z2103/CTS1078+, Z2105+, CTS9416+, Y:14629851+
        2) positive for 271988 Goldschlager and unknown for 13750 Assyrian
        S20902+
        3) positive for 13750 Assyrian and unknown for 271988 Goldschlager
        Z2104/PF7575?, Z2107/CTS7340?, PF7585?, Y:6687319?
        Level PF7580/L584
        1) positive for both 13750 Assyrian and 271988 Goldschlager
        PF7580+
        L584+
        Y:2814664+
        Y:17673462+
        Y:22625609+
        Y:22656448+
        Y:22659944+
        Y:22625609+
        Y:22656448+
        Y:22659944+
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Perhaps it would have been better if he had done also the Assyrian 13750 SNPs negative in Goldschlager, so we would have been able to calculate the MRCA between them, because my hypothesis, many times expressed to Goldschlager, was that his L584 weren't linked with the other Jewish L584, being so different at the STRs level (27 mutations out of 111 as AJL wrote on Anthrogenica).
We'll see with more data.

P.S. S20902 was one of the three SNPs I found on my Chromo2 in all the Z2105*. Now we know that it is upstream Z2106, whereas S12460 is my final SNP so far between Z2110 and CTS9219.
   

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 on: Today at 05:51:23 AM 
Started by Maliclavelli - Last post by Maliclavelli
If there is someone who has something to say about my use of these data, I say that I give my advices for free and my purpose is the truth, only the truth by a scientific point of view, and if someone hasn't my same purpose, he/she would do better in not asking my advices.
I have people whom I found  his/her true parents to and they gave me access to all their accounts.
I gave and give my advices for free, but with all these data I constructed all my theories.

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 on: Today at 05:41:27 AM 
Started by Maliclavelli - Last post by Maliclavelli
Jan Arratta
Email: janarratta@gmail.com
Message: Hi. My uncle appears to be very close genetically and I was wondering if you might be able to give me more information on 'Isoppo". Our family name is Colhoun/Colquhoun from Ireland/Scotland, but according to my uncles J2 we are not part of that family. I would like to know how these changes have come to our family, but need more information.
Regards
Jan
Australia

Of course the link with Isoppo is very close, but we need more data to calculate the MRCA and it isn't said that your line doesn't come from Ireland. The link could be old and not recent. The markers in common between SMGF and FTDNA aren't enough for calculating the MRCA, and there are other factors that should be taken into account.


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 on: Today at 05:20:24 AM 
Started by Maliclavelli - Last post by Maliclavelli
I apologize. The warning of phishing from Gmail was wrong. This person is authentic:

FTDNA kit number 323275

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 on: Today at 05:10:32 AM 
Started by Maliclavelli - Last post by Maliclavelli
TWM4S   Isoppo   Italy    
12   23   17   10   14   17   11   15   10   13   11   29   15   8   9   11   11   26   16   21   31   12   13   16   16   10   12   19   22   15                       13   9       13   11   13   24   11   14   13   6   13   31   22                                                                                   
75NSA   J2s Southern & Eastern Europe + British Isles   734 persons, Italy
                        11               11                   11                       12       15   16           19                                   9                                                                                           
U7M3V   Colhoun Donegal, Ireland    
12   23   17   10   14   16   11   15   10   13   11   29   15   8   9   11   11   26   16   21   31   12   13   16   16   10   12   19   22   15   14   14   16   36   39   12   9   12                           13       13           11   7   14   15   8   12   10   8   10   10   17   17   15   11   12   12   16   9   21   21   12   11   14   10   12   12   12

Dear friend, unfortunately I have anything to do with Isoppo. I am Gioiello Tognoni, the theorist of the "Italian Refugium" of hg. R1b1, but probably also J2 could have come from Italy. I found Isoppo's data on SMGF and put them on Ysearch for studying them. Isoppo is a Brazilian of Italian (Ligurian) descent, but perhaps you know that it isn't possible to contact them.
Your haplotype is very rare and doesn't find any close match on Ysearch, but certainly Isoppo is very close to you, like this J2 extracted from Italian samples. It is to deepen the link with these Abrahams at 8 markers level.
I'd say that certainly your recent origin by the Y are Italian and closely linked to Isoppo, but we should know which is the origin of these Ligurians, place on the sea, thus with any possible link with the Mediterranean.
Stay in touch with me, above all if you may do some deeper tests about your haplogroup.

Kind Regards, Gioiello Tognoni

Questo messaggio potrebbe non essere stato inviato da: janarratta@gmail.com
Jan Arratta
Email: janarratta@gmail.com
Message: Hi. My uncle appears to be very close genetically and I was wondering if you might be able to give me more information on 'Isoppo". Our family name is Colhoun/Colquhoun from Ireland/Scotland, but according to my uncles J2 we are not part of that family. I would like to know how these changes have come to our family, but need more information.
Regards
Jan
Australia

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 on: April 19, 2014, 04:28:58 PM 
Started by Patrick Watters - Last post by Patrick Watters
Recently signed up here. Did the first generation Nat. Geo. yDNA test and have uploaded to the site and the Waters family project.  My GGgrandfather and wife, James Watters and Ann Lowry (Lowery?) emigrated to Philadelphia in 1836, same year as their marriage.

Visiting N.I. and the Highlands and Isles on pilgrimage (spiritual and ancestral) in May 2014 to research; records, churches, cemeteries and more.  More on me and my background at https://www.facebook.com/patrick.watters1 and http://pnpontheroad.blogspot.com.

Patrick Watters - Celtic & Lakota

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 on: April 19, 2014, 12:42:11 PM 
Started by Maliclavelli - Last post by Maliclavelli
Actually N118842 has two SNPs that the other two haven't:
CTS7763  and CTS8966
with
164226   Turkey   R1b-Z2103
and negative is
NA20866 India   R1b-Z2103
NA20532 Italy   R1b-Z2103  is negative for CTS8966:

NA20532 Italy   R1b-Z2103 [map, table]   L150+, L23+, Z2103+, Z2105+,    CTS7822-, CTS8966-, CTS9219-, F672-, L51-, L584-, PF7580-,

P.S. Positive for these two SNPs is NA18645.

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 on: April 19, 2014, 11:48:14 AM 
Started by Maliclavelli - Last post by Maliclavelli
Amongst the people tested from Geno 2.0, who didn't belong to the known subclades (CTS7822/Z2110, L277, L584), there were some people whom the smal's tree put above left.
Now a new SNP, PF954, unify three of them:
N18690 Gose R1b1a2a1 R-L150    
N102077 unknwon father of Khali-Xezale,8th G.(born~1830-?)    R1b1a2a1 R-L150
N118842  Alil Usein b1913 and d.1994  R1b1a2a1 R-L150    
It is to be seen their collocation as to L23* and Z2105*.

P.S. It seems that this SNP is very diffused and a little reliable.

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 on: April 19, 2014, 11:43:10 AM 
Started by martinj - Last post by martinj
I have received back my Big Y results from FTDNA. I think that I am the first Singleton to do this test. I had previously done the Chromo2 test at Britain's DNA, which confirmed me as L21/S145>Z255/S219>L159/S169. This is equivalent to the Haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1b4f that is shown in the Singleton yDNA here, although this has been renumbered I believe. The new Big Y test has taken this further and aligned me with a number of other members in the Beatty-Byrnes project (Z255) on a new SNP Z16429. Below that there are 16 new SNPs at present to identify my Singleton line. It would be really great if other R1b1a2a1a1b4f Singletons could do the Big Y test, as we could then form a tree of where the related lineages branched off from each other. I am also a member of the R1b-L21 project which is doing a lot of work on the Big Y test results, all fascinating stuff.

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 on: April 19, 2014, 01:44:52 AM 
Started by Marie Plummer - Last post by RJCurran
GF: Michael J Curran b 1861 Conception Hrb Newfoundland d. 1953 Queens NY, married to Mae Gorman



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