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 on: Today at 02:21:16 PM 
Started by dlhmda - Last post by Philip Timothy Holden Sr

DNA Markers
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 on: December 01, 2016, 11:01:58 AM 
Started by Terry Barton - Last post by Brousse
OK my eyes have just been opened to a whole new possibility .  I found my family listed in someone Else's genealogy chart they are claiming that my surname ancestor was a cousin of Rollo the 1st Duke of Normandy. He was reported to have been of Danish blood and a few of my very distant matches have been in Denmark.I also found a story that they have opened Rollo's Grandson and Great Grandson's tombs . They recovered a jaw bone from one tomb.  here is what they said

A genetic investigation into the remains of Rollo's grandson, Richard the Fearless, and his great-grandson, Richard the Good, was announced in 2011 with the intention of discerning the origins of the historic Viking leader.[27] On February 29, 2016, Norwegian researchers opened Richard the Good's tomb and found his lower jaw with eight teeth in it.[28] They hope to complete the DNA analysis in late 2016 and plan to present their findings in cooperation with French authorities.

What would be the chances of any Ydna being recovered? Slim to no chance I bet

It would be awesome if they could though because if the chart I found is true then I should be a match given the thousand years of mutations

 on: December 01, 2016, 12:15:50 AM 
Started by nizwhette - Last post by nizwhette
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 on: November 30, 2016, 06:17:45 PM 
Started by John M Shepherd - Last post by SSLBettac
John Shepherd b. bef 1755 ? ; d. aft 1815 Rockingham Co., NC
...William Shepherd b. 1786 Rockingham Co., NC; d. 1870 Madison, Rockingham Co., NC; married 17 Jan 1809 Rockingham Co., NC to Sarah Oliver b. 16 Jan 1789 Rowan Co., NC ; d. aft 1860 Rockingham Co., NC;
.....John Shepherd b. 29 Oct 1809 Rockingham Co., NC; d. 26 July 1879 Reger, Sullivan Co., MO; married 16 Apr 1838 Rockingham Co., NC to Margaret Hays born 1808 Rockingham Co., NC; died 3 Mar 1893 Reger, Sullivan Co., NC
.......William Shepherd b. 11 Jan 1846 Sullivan Co., MO; d. 14 Jun 1923 Sullivan Co., MO; md 10 May 1874 Sullivan Co., MO to Mary Ellen “Comora” King, b. 17 Aug 1856 Jackson Co., MO; d. 19 Jul 1934 Sullivan Co., MO
............John Luther Shepherd b. 28 Apr 1875 Sullivan Co., MO; d. 1 APR 1955 Milan, Sullivan Co., MO; md. 8 Dec 1897 Sullivan Co., MO to Comora Ellen Fields b. 2 May 1876 Sullivan Co., MO ; d. 4 Dec 1963 Milan, Sullivan Co., MO
....................Francis Monroe Shepherd b. 15 Oct 1905 Sullivan Co., MO; d. 1950 Sullivan Co., MO; md. 2 July 1926 Des Moines, Polk Co., IA to Georgia Mildred Hall b. 2 July 1906 Milan, Sullivan Co., MO; d. 8 Jan 1988 Bella Vista, Benton Co., AR
.........................Richard DeWitt Shepherd b. 2 Apr 1930 Milan, Sullivan Co., MO; d. 17 Mar 2015 Rogers, Benton Co., AR

 on: November 29, 2016, 10:05:37 PM 
Started by occuckeneby - Last post by occuckeneby
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 on: November 26, 2016, 04:37:45 PM 
Started by Johnjtraynor - Last post by Johnjtraynor
My name is John Traynor. 

I recently finished my Big Y test from FTDNA and thought I would share some results you may all be interested in.

I tested my Y-DNA.   Y-DNA is "male" DNA which only men have.  They inherited it from their father's father's father's father's .... father.  You get the picture. 

Genetic DNA uses a lot of genetic codes called STRs and SNPs to measure relationships between people.   If you share many genetic codes, you are more closely related.  If you share few, you are less closely related.  By testing the Y-DNA of many people, and matching up their last names with their Y-DNA, we can begin to figure out who is more closely related to whom. 

My DNA test showed me to be part of a branch called FGC6559.  I am not part of the genetic branch called the "Niall of the Nine Hostages" DNA or the "Three Collas" DNA.

Rather I am part of a group of people with the marker FGC6559  which includes Kelleys and Maddens. 

Initial work ties this group to an ancient Irish Kingdom called the Ui Maine, pronounced "Hy Many" to English speakers.  The Ui Maine, led by Maine Mor, founded a kingdom in Connaught near southern Roscommon in the fourth century AD. 

This common ancestor, Maine Mor, had descendants of many names including Kelly Madden and Tr*n*r.  These surnames came later. 

Our family split off from the Kelly's and the Maddens a long time ago.   Perhaps 500 AD.  At this point, DNA history can't help us too much except to say that we haven't been the same DNA as Kelly's or Maddens since the fall of the Roman Empire.  All we know is that our ancestor, a branch of the ruling Ui Maine family, for some reason in pre history chose to leave Ui Maine lands in Connaught and traveled up to the area most of us call home: the kingdom of Airgialla, in present day Monaghan in Ulster.   This is where the oldest references to our family name are found. 

However, this is where legend comes in.  Around 450 -500 AD a man called Aedh MacCairthinn became a follower of Saint Patrick, and ultimately his most dedicated disciple.   Strong enough to carry Saint Patrick on his back across rivers when Patrick was tired, he became known as Saint Patrick's "strong man" or tréanfhear.  Ultimately, Patrick told Mac Cairthinn, or Macartan as we know him now, to start a monastery at Clogher, and Macartan became the first bishop of Clogher. 

In these days, the rules of celibacy were still being debated.  Many priests and bishops were married.   Macartan may well have been married.   Some stories even tell us at Macartan was married when he became a follower of Patrick's. 

All we know now is that, of all three  Tr*n*rs tested in Big Y , none of whom know eachother, all three have tested to this Ui Maine DNA line; and something made us leave Ui Maine and brought the Tr*n*rs to southern Ulster in  antiquity, perhaps 500AD. And legend says we have always been erenachs, guardians of church lands.   

Are we the descendants of that Aedh Mac Cairthinn (Saint Macartan) Tréanfhear?

I will leave it up to you.

 on: November 26, 2016, 02:20:11 PM 
Started by Tim McClure - Last post by mcclurera
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 on: November 24, 2016, 04:45:55 AM 
Started by Arthur C. Barker - Last post by Arthur C. Barker
A 79th SNP Pack has just been released by Family Tree DNA.  This is another advanced SNP Pack, called I1-Z140.  As with prior new packs, it sells for an introductory rate of $99.00.

However, all of our Kit holders who are in the I1 branch have not tested or confirmed beyond the early I-M253 SNP, which YFull estimates arose about 27,500 years ago, with the exception of one Big Y tester who does not need any SNP Packs.  Therefore, this SNP Pack has no present utility for any of our Members.

 on: November 23, 2016, 08:50:21 PM 
Started by Zena McCarty Paice - Last post by Zena McCarty Paice
Hi Sheila,

You're right, the forum hasn't been used much as people usually email us directly. but it can be used like this, to ask questions or add information.

I did respond to your email on 11/5/2016 thanking you. Did you not receive that response? If you didn't see it, check your spam folder, perhaps it went there? I can forward it to you again if you'd like to see it.

Your pedigree is posted on the McCarthy Surname DNA Project Patriarch's Page here at WorldFamilies. After you sign into WorldFamilies, in your Favorite Projects section (left side panel - bottom) click on McCarthy. When that page opens, look at the top for Patriarch's Page. Click on that. Your pedigree is posted under the group "R-L21 B3". You will see your name and email in bold black to your Patriarch's (Eugene/Owen McCarthy's) name. Your kit numbers are further down. Remember that no individual is published on this site if they were born after 1910, but the kit number for the test taker is listed by their first ancestor born before 1910.

If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to email me directly at



 on: November 23, 2016, 08:33:57 PM 
Started by Zena McCarty Paice - Last post by spmccarthy
What is this forum used for?  I send my pedigree info and I haven't heard anything back.  And it looks like no one else uses this forum either.


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