FTDNA myGroups

Sigh.  The first week of using the FTDNA myGroups page wasn't fun - as the feature just wasn't ready for launching.  Some of the biggest issues have been addressed - but there is still much needing to be fixed.  (I have only converted a couple of projects so that I can try things out and monitor the progress)

If you are an "early adopter" and are willing to work around things that aren't fixed yet - then you can probably be happy in converting to myGroups now.  If you like things to be stable and don't want to put your project members through more changes and probably lose some searchers - then I suggest that you wait.

Positives:

  • More attractive page
  • Looks and feels like a Project Home page (which it isn't yet - but is what it should become)
  • Administrator can select a banner picture (or upload their own) and can also upload a crest
  • "Facebook-type" feature called "Activity Feed", which is loved by some Admins (but hated by others) 
  • Activity Feed currently includes a Coupon feature - where a new coupon is released every morning
  • Activity Feed can be turned off by Admins who choose not to use it
  • FTDNA has provided a WorldFamilies Icon, which takes the searcher to the WorldFamilies project
  • Readers can tell me of other advantages they see - easiest is to email me: terry@worldfamilies.net.

Negatives (note - those being addressed by the Debbie Kennett et.al. list by the Facebook yDNA Administrator group have been moved to the bottom of the posting)

  • Launch came before bugs were worked out.  The following glitches still aren't fixed yet

    • Administrator names accurately displayed
    • Clear labeling for WorldFamilies Icon, so the searcher understands why they want to click the Icon
    • Layout and Links were designed only for a project using FTDNA's website
    • Coupon isn't turned off after being used - imagine being the person ready to place an order because of a coupon and finding it doesn't work
    • The "Project Website" url is not accessible for edit when Project is converted to myGroups - and the edit isn't being updated at the myGroups page even if you un-converted so that you could access & edit it; then reconverted
    • The posting thread is named "Activity Feed"  (who knows what an activity feed is?)
    • probably others I missed
  • Stops short of being a true Home page

    • Page for ordering kits through the project ("Join" page) is not reachable from the myGroups page
    • Project Description is at Ordering page ("Join") instead of at myGroups page
    • Searcher at FTDNA for a Project is first sent to the FTDNA Ordering Page, where the myGroups url is also provided, 
    • It's really awkward to reach the myGroups page in any case - which shouldn't be the case for a "Home Page"
    • Searcher should be routed to access all of the project info (at myGroups) before being offered to buy a test - not afterwards
    • No Text Field and display block for the Administrator to provide a welcome message
    • No functional customization for Admin (such adding more links to left side bar, hiding ones with no info, ...)
    • Page title doesn't use the Project name defined by Project Administrator
  • And most importantly, it isn't obvious and crystal clear how to get to the project's DNA Results and related information when the project site isn't at FTDNA Public pages.  (FTDNA has stated they will fix this for WorldFamilies' Projects.  FTDNA haven't commented to me on other projects with their own project site)

I'll update this in the coming weeks.  Here are links to my Barton converted project site - so that you can see the banner approach that we are testing and will use if we aren't satisified that the myGroups page provides crystal clear routing to the WorldFamilies project sites

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/barton/about

Terry

Items being addressed by the Facebook yDNA Administrators group:

  • Searcher who isn't signed in to FTDNA (which requires a DNA kit) can't access the administrator's email
  • "DNA Results" link doesn't take the searcher to their WorldFamilies results page - it takes them to the FTDNA Public Page Results - which we don't support
  • Surnames count and project total counts don't match other displayed counts - sometimes in the same screen view
  • myGroups pulls data from odd locations. It's difficult to figure out how/where in order to make changes to earlier Admin inputs

FTDNA myGroups - wiki approach to providing comments to FTDNA

Debbie Kennett has organized a "wiki" style listing of issues with the new myGroups system.  You need to be a member of Facebook's yDNA Project Administrator's Group to access the discussion and to participate in the input.  I applaud this effort for being be a shared effort - where admins can express support or disagreement for a suggestion.  FTDNA is paying attention to this list, but make no committment to address everything.

There is some similiarity and overlap between the Facebook ADministrator's effort and my comments above.  In general, the Facebook based effort is focused on glitch fixes, where my focus addresses glitches but has a strong focus on getting the myGroups page to where it is truly the FTDNA Project's Home page and where the linkages are fairly and correctly linked to the project info display - no matter where it is. 

I am going to work to shift my posting to focus on the Home Page and Real-Project-Site-Connection issues and defer to the Facebook listing to get the glitches fixed

Terry

wanted help.

My name is Mindy Le. I am amerasian (half Vietnames, half white american). I am looking for my dad who is American soldier, he came to Vietnam during the war. I do not have any information about him. Do i have any chance to find him through DNA test? If yes, please give me advice and guide me how to do it: what kind of Test should I order.
Thank you very much.
Mindy Le.

wanted help.

My name is Mindy Le. I am amerasian (half Vietnames, half white american). I am looking for my dad who is American soldier, he came to Vietnam during the war. I do not have any information about him. Do i have any chance to find him through DNA test? If yes, please give me advice and guide me how to do it: what kind of Test should I order.
Thank you very much.
Mindy Le.

Groups Page

Hi Terry,

I have a work-around for the "DNA Results" not going to the results page at WF, which is my main complaint with the new groups pages. Since all the links at FTDNA seem to end up on the "about" page, I put links there to the results, etc., as you can see at:
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/short/about

Rick Saunders

Hi, Rick. Really like your

Hi, Rick. Really like your approach.

Terry, Could you put together a how-to that would describe the process of modifying the myGroups "About" page? I assume that we could use Rick's html as a template and perform a change-all from short to , which should get us 80% of the way down the road. One of the advantages of doing so would be to provide a level of consistency in the WFN projects.

Groups

Hi Rick.  I am still trying to get the links that display on the myGroups page to send members and searchers directly to the project info at WorldFamilies.  To the extent that fails, I will be doing something very similar to what you are doing.  Terry 

Allen Jones Dixon, his daughter Elizabeth Dixon, & her mtDNA

I have direct maternal descend from Elizabeth Dixon who married John Brickwall Hendrix. My mtDNA is U5A2A1D, so that is also hers. my mother was a Lewis, daughter of Minnie Brantley, daughter of Marintha Cowart, daughter of Eleanor Hendrix, daughter of Elizabeth Dixon. There are conflicting claims for her parentage. Hard evidence is needed. Any children or direct maternal descendants of Elizabeth Hendrix (nee Dixon) will have her U5abaid haplotype,

There are also strong disagreements about whether her mother was born a Tallent or a Hendrix/Hendricks, related to her husband. It is important that Allen Jones Dixon, whose father, Robert Dixon, was killed by Tories when Allen was very young was raised by his mother (Susannah Jones, daughter of Francis Jones) and Luke Mizell. They also raised some of Francis Jones' other grandchildren, it has been said. This extended family which included Bowen & Hendrix would have led to the daughter of Allen Jones Dixon knowing John Brickwall Hendrix, well, who she married, according to public record. Though I know of no historic record identifying her as daughter of Allen Jones Dixon & Susannah Hendricks or a Susannah Hendricks, nee Tallent, which are conflicting traditions.

There seems to be mtDNA evidence that Rachel Bowen in the previous generation of that much intermarried cluster was U5a2a1d haplotype.

Some of her other children's descendants argue that there is a family Bible of a Windsor Dixon which lists her with the birthdate 9 April 1807, but I have tried to find that image & it does not seem to be available on line.
What is available is a typed piece of paper with the children of Windsor Dixon, incl. an Elizabeth. That birthday is scribbled in with the POSSIBILITY that she is the one who married John Brickwall Hendrix, with a question mark. That is proof of SPECULATION, but it is not proof of fact, as being found in a Bible is often taken to be.

There's also a different birthday given for her.
I understand that the Huxford magazine says that Elizabeth Dixon is the daughter of Allen Dixon, but is there hard evidence?

Comments re myGroups and FTDNA

Hi Terry,
I have a couple of comments about the FTDNA groups:

1. This problem is not restricted to MyGroups - but there is no way to update members' haplogroups / terminal SNPs with data from other companies. I have been tested as S668+ but as far as FTDNA is concerned I am and will probably always be M222.

2. It would be nice if members could automatically be informed by personal email when new posts are submitted to the "Activity Feed" - even nicer if the email could include the actual content of the post. This would keep people aware of what's happening in their group without having to take the initiative to periodically log in.

3. The coupon code messages are great, except that they clog up the feed, pushing earlier posts by members down the queue where they can easily be missed. I think maybe posts from FTDNA should appear separately in some way.

I suppose I'd be better off sending these comments to FTDNA rather than to this forum, though I doubt they'd carry much weight.

Geoff Melloy

mtDNA

How do I find the mtDNA page to view matches? New here and not understanding this site.

Pedigree for Gunn Group

Patrick Gunn born in County Monaghan, Ireland in 1804 by Michael B. Gunn
Michael Gunn born in County Monaghan, Ireland in 1844. To USA in 1854.
Michael William Gunn, b. 1868 in Cincinnati, OH, USA
William M. Gunn, b. 1891, Cincinnati, OH, USA
Bernard W. Gunn, b. 1916, Cinti., OH, USA
Michael B. Gunn, b.1939, Cinti., OH, USA
155371 , Kit No.

Re-involvement

Terry and John:

It has been many years since I was involved with this project. I was one of the first members to start with Family DNA, and was active for several years. Something happened, I do not remember what, but I drifted away and now that I am 80 years old, I want to get involved again. I have several problems that I need help with. First I do not know where or what my kit number was, and do not know what password was sent back after my samples were tested. Is there some way I can get these items again? Hoping you or someone can help, I remain.

Sincerely,

Thomas A. Markham,Sr.

" Mr. Edmonds"Marriage

I would like to find out if anybody has any information on a "Mr.Edmonds" that was married to Mae, Mamie Mae, Carter, or Carpenter in the late 1890's. She, Mamie Mae, was born in Bloomington, Ind. 4-29-1878. She was born a Carter but was raised by Carpenter. She married Chas. Emil Peterson 1-12-1896 and on the marriage application she says that her husband "Mr. Edmonds" had died more than a year before that date.I believe that "Mr. Edmonds" is my Great grandpa and that his son, William Ray, was raised as a Peterson after Mamie Mae married Chas. Emil Peterson.

I have no information on "Mr.Edmonds", first name, DOB, place of birth, etc.

Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Howell connection

Henry Howell b abt 1755 NC, Orange or Southampton Co.
Ma. Jane O. Collins 11 July 1784.
Served in NC Line, American Revolution alongside bro-in-law Henry Ivy.
Relocated to Hawkins Co.,(later became part of Grainger Co. TN).
Died 4 Oct 1819
NEED PROOF of children, names & places of birth. Jane 1788, John 1799, Joseph 1801, Henry Jr. 1803, William 1803, Thomas K 1804, Prudence 1807, Susannah 1809.
No Census available for 1800 or 1810.
Clues/hints as to parentage of Henry appreciated, Fa COULD be John, b 1725,
great grfa COULD be Joshua b 1680 VA.
Thanks for any/all help. Dorothy Howell Carroll, Kit # 318717.

Howell connection

Henry Howell b abt 1755 NC, Orange or Southampton Co.
Ma. Jane O. Collins 11 July 1784.
Served in NC Line, American Revolution alongside bro-in-law Henry Ivy.
Relocated to Hawkins Co.,(later became part of Grainger Co. TN).
Died 4 Oct 1819
NEED PROOF of children, names & places of birth. Jane 1788, John 1799, Joseph 1801, Henry Jr. 1803, William 1803, Thomas K 1804, Prudence 1807, Susannah 1809.
No Census available for 1800 or 1810.
Clues/hints as to parentage of Henry appreciated, Fa COULD be John, b 1725,
great grfa COULD be Joshua b 1680 VA.
Thanks for any/all help. Dorothy Howell Carroll, Kit # 318717.

Seymour

Need to know more about James Seymore who his father is.James was born in Ms May 1849 and d. 1910.James son is my grandfather Pearly Seymour Born 4-22-1881 Franklin County Ms. D. in La on 4-29-1975.Pearly had a son which is my father Dayton B. Seymour 10-5-1923 Baskin,La.d.in March 17.2002 in Bastrop,La. Dayton daughter is Margie E. Seymour Hadley Born in Bastrop,La on 7-10-1959 and now lives in Sterlington,La.

Results

I have not received any results from my tests. Am hoping they are not lost.

My email at the time I returned my samples was: jpobjecky05@comcast.net

Address was: 14001 Stroubles Creek Road Blacksburg, Virginia 24060

I am currently in Florida. Address: 3060 Las Palmas Drive Titusville, Florida 32780

Current email: jpobjecky@att.net

Cell Phone: 321-576-2555

Tests were paid for. Hope this can be resolved. Thank you